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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Low income kids suffered the most from virtual. Let's get that straight. Their families had reasons for keeping them home but it wasn't because virtual was working from an educational standpoint.

It is one thing to say that we had to do virtual to protect people's lives. That is reasonable even if some might also reasonably disagree.

It is another thing to say virtual was fine and any problems resulting from it were the parents' faults. That's preposterous and false. Virtual was horrible from an educational standpoint even if you can argue it was necessary. Another thing that is horrible is schools not disciplining kids, also schools not properly teaching reading, and also schools basically eliminating any real standards. And the use of screens as "educational" tools to enrich educational software providers. All of these things were choices MCPS and many other school systems made.

Parenting these days is different than it was in the past. Among my friends many of us have had our own parents tell us we spend a ton of time with our kids, much more than they did. Parenting is much more intensive than it used to be. It's entirely possible we are all doing it horribly wrong, but it's certainly not for a lack of trying to do it right. It's hard knowing that many of us try to do the right thing, limit screen time, establish and enforce rules, and then send them into an environment where screen time is not limited at all and rules are not enforced. [/quote]

Folks aren’t saying virtual was fine.  Everyone knows it had issues especially considering it had to be done without any prior notice or proper planning and setup of resources.  Teachers and district are willing to help make up for that.  Teachers are working harder than ever, districts have provided access to tutoring, and are reaching out.  Is more needed still, Yes. Should they have better discipline, Yes.

All the above said, parenting is much different.  From my perspective it’s more competitive for no gain and people are trying to parent by group decree.  It’s like folks need assurance from a whole host of folks to make parenting decisions. That or they are pushing kids until they are anxious so they can brag about them to others.  Gentle parenting has become basically never say No and mean it parenting.  Not to mention they won’t let kids fail. All this is showing up in the classroom making teaching and recovery harder and harder.  Folks want discipline in the moment at school, which I can agree with, but also some of the behaviors should not be occurring with such prevalence to begin with.  Parents want school to enforce kids not using their phones, yet it’s obvious that parents aren’t monitoring screen time or putting limits so it’s not accessible during school hours.  Plus ya’ll are the one giving kids phones in the first place.  Control of that device and discipline around such starts with you.[/quote]

There are absolutely people claiming virtual was fine, blaming parents any time people talk about the failures of virtual classes. Many more refuse to acknowledge the harm that extended school closures did, and certainly won't admit it was a mistake or apologize for their role in extending the closures well beyond they were necessary.

That's a big reason why people have lost trust and confidence in MCPS and MCEA.[/quote]

MCEA is a union.  Your obsession with then is bizzare.   It caused you harm as you are not used to parenting and expect the school to be it all.   My kids were in virtual for several years.  It was the best education they got in Mcps. [/quote]

See. This is exactly what I mean. Some people refuse to acknowledge the failures of virtual classes, even after the disastrous consequences we experienced.[/quote]

It wasn't a failure for many kids and it has nothing to do with MCEA.  MCPS dumbed down the curriculum and reduced class time because of whiny parents like you.  Mine got a good education and we supplemented with the free tutoring.  We made sure our kids got a good education.  Why didn't you?[/quote]

Of course MCEA was involved. The other unions agreed to return long before schools reopened, including the union representing school nurses. MCEA was the hold out, going so far as to threaten to illegally strike if the board chose to reopen.[/quote]

The unions are there to represent their folks.  It was a poor choice to reopen earlier as teachers died and why would you want your teacher dead?  Oh wait, so you didn't have to care for your own kids.  What do you do summers or now/holidays when you have to deal with the kids or does the nanny deal with them?[/quote]

You're grossly overestimating the risk that could be attributed to schools. There are over 4 million K-12 teachers in the US. Based on their age/sex distribution, you'd expect about 4,000 deaths per year. Covid isn't the only mortality risk for teachers, and schools aren't the only places teachers can get sick.

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