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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Eh, not all schools are equal.

A top honors degree from third rate undergrad may not get you into prestigious graduate school, especially if their programs suck in your field of interest.[/quote]
There's a lot to be said for being the big fish in a small pond.  I ended up at a third rate undergrad for financial reasons and had no problem getting into a top grad school and top law school.  Leaving undergrad I had tons of awards, glowing recommendations, and perfect grades.  I don't know that my application would have been as stellar from a more competitive school.[/quote]

How many other kids from your undergrad were at your top law school with you?  How many of your law school classmates graduated from the undergrad of your law school?[/quote]

Congrats to PP for threading the needle and getting into top law school the harder way. We have a very close relative at Yale law. They went to a different ivy for undergraduate. Over half of the YL entering class each year is from the same 20 or so elite undergrads. Most of the rest are from T25-40 types/6-15 ranked LACs. There are almost no students from colleges below the top100 and these students are either hooked demographics or truly genius. [/quote]
Yale lists the 86 undergrad institutions that are represented at Yale Law School on their website.  You'll see lots of non-prestigious schools listed, from Northern Arizona University to Florida International University to Southern Utah University.

[url]https://law.yale.edu/admissions/profiles-statistics[/url][/quote]

That's 86 out of 204 students. 90 are from Yale, 30 odd from Harvard. Magically, that leaves your 84-odd figure because Yale, like Harvard, cherry picks the valedictorians from those other schools. That's how I got into both Harvard and Yale law schools. Both institutions brag these figures because to the unknowing it makes the schools appear less elitist. Fully one-third of my HLS class (560) were from Harvard undergrad ergo 185.[/quote]

THIS. Med school is similar.[/quote]
But is it easier to be the #1 student from Northern Arizona University or one of the top 10 applicants from Duke?[/quote]

One does not have to be in the top 10 applicants from Duke to have a decent shot at Yale: three dozen or so have a shot.
Most years the top student at NAU will not get in to ANY T5 law school and maybe the top 1-2 kids will get into a T14.  Every year about three dozen get into a top5 law school from Duke, these are not the very top 3 dozen at Dukeas very top kids do many different things: it correlates to the top 20-25% gpawise based on oublished gpas. Furthermore many dozen, just over half of all law applicants  get into a T14 Law from Duke: this group represents the top half of law applicants and spreads all the way to the middle of the graduating class as the law applicants are distributed fairly evenly across the entire class. Same with med applicants, though premed gpas are slightly lower and the applicants skew slightly lower gpa relative to the class. Average students at Duke with average GPAs get into T14 and T25 med schools with regularity. Same with ivies. [/quote]

You don’t need a T14 law school unless your only desirable outcome is a partner at a white-shoe firm. There are many, many successful attorneys in BigLaw making a lot of money who did not attend a T5. And there are many paths other than BigLaw, anyway.

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You went from T14 to T5…but you are actually incorrect if you stick with just T14.  There is one law firm…maybe Skadden where you can search by attorneys by law school and the results are staggering…especially if you just look at associates.

There are far more indebted, underemployed lawyers in this country from garbage law schools with huge student loans than perhaps you want to care about.[/quote]

None of the BigLaw partners I know went to a T14. But they have a considerable book.[/quote]

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