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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Your odds aren't any better at these schools if you're not a faculty kid, legacy, athlete, or URM. Only exception might by in-state publics like Boston Latin and Lexington, but even then, you're competing against a lot of faculty/legacy kids. Just look at when GDS had crazy Harvard stats last year, but it turned out most were legacy. I know very smart folks who went to Andover and they ended up at schools like Barnard, Dartmouth, Bates, BC, etc. that they applied ED. The competition is fierce because 75% of the kids would have no trouble with Ivy academics and everyone is applying to the same colleges. [/quote]

Dartmouth is now a letdown? [/quote]

Didn’t mean it as a letdown, just showing it’s not easy to get HYPS and people go to a wide range of schools - actually quite a few end up at UMass Amherst every year at Andover nowadays.[/quote]

7 out of a class of 300.

14 went to Yale
12 went to Harvard
9 went to Princeton

11.6% of the class to those 3 schools alone.

But sure — Andover’s college matriculation is weak these days.

Andover hasn’t sent everyone to the Ivy League in probably 40 years. But I challenge you to show me any high school that has stronger matriculation.

https://www.andover.edu/files/Profile20222023.pdf[/quote]

If you're talking about just Harvard, Boston Latin does better.

If you're talking about just Princeton, then Princteon HS and Lawrenceville do better and Lawrenceville is probably competitive with Andover at HYPSM.

I don't have good visibility on Yale but I would bet Andover is the a top 3 feeder school to Yale.

If you want to include places like Stanford and MIT, then Andover slips.

But yeah, you're right, across HYPSM, Andover is probably the strongest but it's still like 10-20 of their class and a lot of that is boosted by legacy admissions and similar considerations.
And the difference between Andover and a place like TJ (before the change in admissions) is not huge.[/quote]

In a typical year, Andover sends roughly 60-65 kids to the Ivy League.

By saying that only 10-20 kids go to HYPSM, it shows me you didn’t even read my post carefully. I included the HYP numbers, which was 35 kids.

In the class whose profile I posted, the numbers are:

Brown: 10
Columbia: 8
Cornell: 6
Dartmouth: 3
Harvard: 12
Penn: 7
Princeton: 3
Yale: 12

Total: 60

MIT: 7
Stanford: 11

Total: 18

Total Ivy + MIT and Stanford: 78, or 26% of the class [/quote]

And what did you think the rate for IVY+ was at TJ?[/quote]

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