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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Office-based work is also completely out of sync with the real estate market. Most people change jobs multiple times throughout their careers. It makes no sense to uproot a family and take on the expense of selling a home to work for a job that you have not have (voluntarily or involuntarily) in five years. I even know people in the DC that have sold and bought homes when they changed jobs (e.g., moving between MD and VA or PG and MoCo counties) to be closer to work. Owning a home is a huge deterrent to changing jobs when in office work is required, even within in the same metro area when commutes can be very long.[/quote]

This is a great example of another tangential argument about RTO. My company has decided that we work best together in our office together in person, period full stop. [b]Your real estate market concerns, child care arrangements, feelings about public transportation, etc are all irrelevant. If those are more of a priority for you please go somewhere else[/b] and we will find some other worker who better fits our company.[/quote]

JFC, this ^^^

You know how I know that all those concerns can be managed or, if not, the worker can go elsewhere?  Hospitals.

Hospitals are typically the largest employer in any given city and with very few exceptions (HR, IT), EVERYONE must report in person to their job. To perform brain surgery, to empty the trash, to infuse chemotherapy into a patient, to clean up your body fluids, to perform your MRI.

We. figure. it. out.   Because we have to.  We do not move to Faquier County if our job is in Silver Spring, and we don't try to get away with not having childcare for our toddler because ... we're working. We don't whine about snow or metro, because we are required to show up [i]even when it's raining![/i]. Somehow, we get ourselves there.

If any of this is insurmountable, and in fairness, these are all legit concerns, then we select a different employer.

If gigantic hospital systems full of workers --  at every income and education leve-- l can execute, then so can you! [/quote]

You do realize many of us bought our houses years ago and jobs in IT change often, sometimes every few years so picking up and moving is not really an option.  So, if you live in Silver Spring and the job is in VA, you commute.  The difference between being in an hospital and IT is IT can do work remotely and hospital you cannot.  You choose that job, as did others.  Many were working remotely before the pandemic and choose the job because it was remote and now being told they have to go into the office.

In our situaiton, the worker is working 10 hour days at home - often flexing for early morning and late night calls and being on call at night to fix things, so at 2 AM they could be working for an hour or two.  Safety wise, is that a good plan after working from 8-10 PM on calls, then up at 2-3 to fix something and be in the office by 8 am, work till 5, for a 60-90 minute commute home.  So, what's going to happen now is no more early or late calls or 2 AM fixes.  Strict 8-4/9-5 schedule.  Employer will lose out.[/quote]

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