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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What?
New York has the land grant colleges at Cornell.
Amazing.[/quote]

Cornell is private. U Buffalo is notoriously underfunded. The closest public to Wisconsin in the northeast is U Maryland. Even then, it’s only comparable for cs. [/quote]

Indiana? Penn State? Ohio State?[b] Those are absolutely on par with or better than Maryland. Rutgers is better than Maryland[/b]. This is a weird thread.[/quote]
? says who?

According to Forbes, UMD is a public ivy.  Penn, Ohio and Rutger are not.   Oh, and a SUNY is on the list.

Binghamton University - New York
    Georgie Institute of Technology - Georgia
    University of Florida - Florida
    University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign- Illinois
    University of Maryland - College Park
    University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
    University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill
    University of Texas - Austin
    University of Virginia - Virginia
    University of Wisconsin - Madison
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You think some stupid clickbait from Forbes is determinative?

The relative strength of a public flagship should be a) how well and affordablh it educates its state’s grads to take up professions useful to the state; b) how well it generates and disseminates knowledge for the specific needs of the state (ie supporting state agriculture and industry) c) how well it generates and disseminates knowledge for the benefit of the world; and d) production of enriching arts and humanities. [/quote]
Forbes looks at outcome, which is important to most people.

You think we should listen to some self aggrandizing anonymous poster?[/quote]

It's a dumb list. It doesn't even include CA schools.

And if you actually do think it's meaningful, does the #10 school offer anything substantially different than the #11 school?

"Top 10" and "Public ivies" are clickbait. Anyone can choose some arbitrary methodology to come up with any list they want. They just want to get their views.

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You should read the article first before responding.

[quote]"These 10 state universities, spread across the U.S., attract high-achievers and turn out hard-working, highly-regarded employees," editors wrote, noting that California schools were not included as they don't consider test scores.

Forbes compiled an "exclusive survey" of hiring managers to help identify 10 public universities and 10 private ones that are "turning out the smart, driven graduates craved by employers of all types."

According to the report, the methodology looked to hiring managers to help analyze the data for more than 1,700 colleges of at least 4,000 students, taking into account admissions data, standardized test scores and more. [/quote]

And U  of WI touts this list.  I guess U of WI got sucked into a clickbait site, too.  They must be a crap university to tout this crap list.

https://news.wisc.edu/forbes-names-uw-madison-as-new-ivy/[/quote]

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