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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course Jesus was a radical.

Why on earth do you think everyone in power wanted him dead?[/quote]

Jesus was no radical. He merely repeated traditional Jewish teaching. The gospels were written decades after Jesus died. We don’t even know if there ever was a Jesus. Why he was condemned to death, if in fact he ever lived, is lost in history. [/quote]

You are totally and completely wrong. Please cite your sources.

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There’s no doubt Christ existed. [/quote]

"Christ"?  though your sources are questionable, there may have been an itinerant Jewish preacher named Jesus.  But there's no proof of a Christ -- that's all religious belief.[/quote]

I am not religious. I did take religious courses at Duke Divinity school to get my humanities credits. An odd thing for someone with no religious beliefs or background. My adviser counseled me I I wouldn't hesitate to be both critical and analytical. The rare poor kid at Duke, it was indeed a place to shine

In any event one of the courses I took was called the Historical Jesus.  It was taught by the first Westerner to have access to the Dead Sea Scrolls. From a historical perspective and not a theological one, there was little doubt there was a man named by Jesus who had significant social impact. An examination of the Gospels alone and their conflicts and inconsistencies demonstrated how the Gospel writers strove to make the life of Jesus as a fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy, what you would do in trying to establish a religion. I don't know why anyone would deny the evidence of Jesus' existence as a man given the record. And I don't think calling him a preacher is accurate. It assumes Jesus thought he was establishing a religion which doesn't appear to be the case. He was a Jewish man with a call to seek justice in a turbulent time among one of the few generally literate cultures at the time   Now theology - lots to argue about but thankfully not my thing.  By the way the other two who received A's in the class - i always felt like an imposter being an ill prepared scholarship athlete -went to Yale and Oxford Divinity and both are very successful leading churches in the DMV area. I had it so easy because I could merely spot conflicts and inconsistencies and explicate the tension. But these two took it a step beyond and consistently reconciled there faith with what to me were rather obvious human created tensions. They were not my cup of tea but intellectually I respected them, even when not buying into their objectives. Having no parents or guidance, I thank the professor who really taught me tolerance. Never have been proselytized because I have a respectful presence which politely expresses no interest.  I had no problem dealing with science either, taking a biology class on evolution which was ahead of its time.

One thing Christians have going for the. The founder of their faith, even if unwitting or unintended, was not a warlord.[/quote]

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