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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't understand that College forum.  Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive.  In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in).  Difficult, but hardly impossible.[/quote]

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."[/quote]

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.[/quote]

Hmm…St. Anne’s shows 21 of 85 kids going to Ivy schools…is your math so bad that you calculated that at 48%?

Collegiate isn’t even consider one of the elite NYC schools so I doubt it’s higher than Trinity at around 40%.

Any more made up stats for us?[/quote]

Maybe that person is including schools like Duke, Johns Hopkins, Williams, etc. that can get you close to 50%. You seem really triggered by this.

I just wrote above that we know many kids getting in but they all have smart parents who also attended top colleges.

DH and I went to HYP for grad schools and T30 undergrad. We have 3 kids who are stronger than us in every way. [b]I expect they will do equal or better than us. [/b]While Dh and I come from humble beginnings. Our kids have had every resource available to them.[/quote]

Oh, hon. Seriously, spend some more time on the college board so you don't get hit with a very rude awakening.[/quote]

My oldest is a standout. He is far superior than Dh and me in every way. Of course nothing is guaranteed. Dh is very active at his schools. I have full confidence this kid will do just fine with UVA as his back up. With his stats from his school, he will at least get into UVA.

We are now in it preparing for college. All of friends have kids in high school or college. What I am saying is that if you have parents who went to T30 schools, have worked in law, medicine, tech, consulting, they have all recruited and seen how impressive these kids are. My kid is as good, at least my oldest one. If your mom went to Princeton, makes millions in finance, you go to a top private school in NYC, the likelihood of you getting into Penn is higher than your kid who has perfect stats from Fairfax high trying to get into Wharton.[/quote]

This all started with there is a 5% chance of getting into Harvard.

Others than pointed out that people with money, legacy, athletes etc have greater than a 5% chance…which means the real chance for an average high stats/high gpa kid is actually less than 5%.

[b]It’s weird that you are somehow saying…don’t worry, it’s not that hard to get into these schools…just make sure your parents are rich and you attend an elite NYC private school.  How does that help this conversation?[/b]

In your example, if that kid applies to Princeton their chance is 20%+ due to legacy…which just chips away at the 5% for the random kid.[/quote]

This. I don't get the "making excuses for mediocrity" poster. The whole point of this conversation is how difficult it is due to circumstances out of your control, no matter how hard you have worked your ass off. "Just be wealthy and have the ideal upbringing and high school  experience!" We get it, Little Johnny will be fine because he's not a poor. Sorry we scared you. [/quote]

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