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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm under no delusions my child is "gifted".  We worked hard on a parent packet to get him into AAP partially because AAP classrooms have less distractions, move faster, and cover a larger depth of materials.  More importantly, as poor and elitist as it sounds, the peer groups tend to be better.

He's not falling behind, but he's not the smartest kid at his table either.  I'm fully aware there are just as qualified kids as him in General Ed that could be swapped out with no difference.

All that to say, OP, stay away from your silly ideas that I'd have to re-qualify every year!  It was stressful enough the first time, and kid (and parents) don't need the added hardship year to year! Also imagine the social implications of being relegated... Ouch![/quote]

This is such a terrible argument! If you admit that any other kid could swap in with yours, and that the environment is better, why would you think you can lay claim to a spot? [/quote]

I didn't say it was fair.  I asked that you stay away from all these "silly" ideas!  I selfishly don't want to have to go through that process again and get lucky each and every year. If my child was kicked out, I'd be raising up a storm of litigation.   [/quote]

To be fair, if FCPS were to kick kids out of AAP or re-evaluate, they wouldn't force parents to go through another entire application process.  That would be too large of a time sink for too little gain.  It's more likely that kids scoring below a specific SOL threshold (maybe 480) would be booted or at least re-assessed.  [/quote]

I think the fair thing would be SOLs both above 500 puts a kid in and below a certain threshold pushes them out. The kids in advanced math already have the pressure to score high to stay in, so FCPS doesn't really mind doing that to kids [/quote]

Putting aside the logical fallacy of standardized tests not being a good measure for entry, but being an excellent measure of exit for a minute…

I don’t love the AAP program as it exists, because I don’t think it’s actually meeting the needs of the kids who need advanced education, but since it does exist, I’m all for having on-ramps and off-ramps.

Having said that, the issue becomes the accelerated math. Elementary AAP covers 1.5 years of math in a school year, which means the SOLs don’t align with grade level after 4th grade. For example, my kid was in 5th grade last year, but took the 6th grade math SOL (and scored “pass-advanced”, since we are using that metric to determine what is “advanced”). You can’t take a General Education kid who scored “pass-advanced” on the 5th grade math SOL and drop him into 7th grade math and expect him to thrive without the additional tutoring to catch him up…which this board condemns.
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Likewise, you can’t take an AAP kid who didn’t score “pass-advanced” on the 6th grade math SOL when he was in 5th grade and say he isn’t “advanced”, since he is already working a grade level ahead.[/b]

It would make sense to take kids who are failing the SOL and drop them back to general education for that subject (so if you didn’t pass sixth grade math in fifth grade, you take it again in sixth grade), but I imagine there are not a ton of kids in the AAP program who are truly failing. Just kids who at one measured point in time did a smidge better than OP’s kid.[/quote]

Only because they are AAP. You can do that to a kid who pushes in for advanced math. The kids pushing into advanced math know it and take tests seriously [/quote]

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