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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I blame the internet for making it so much easier to prep for the SAT. Or maybe I blame the internet for exposing it and showing us all it isn't very good at measuring aptitude? [/quote] The current SAT is not designed to measure aptitude.[/quote] Then why are the most competitive schools requiring it again?[/quote] DP: Because the test now measures college readiness: [b]knowledge[/b] of math, reading, and writing. An aptitude test evaluates a student's [b]natural abilities and strengths[/b]. The College Board no longer considers the test an aptitude test (this is well documented). It hasn't been an aptitude test since the 1990s. Some history: https://www.erikthered.com/tutor/sat-act-history.html [/quote] You can't easily separate out knowledge and aptitude. Without knowledge (tool), you can't display your aptitude. Without aptitude (strength), you can't use your knowledge effectively. I would say if you score higher than 1550, it means you have both aptitude and knowledge. If one scores lower than 1550, perhaps knowledge is there but aptitude is somewhat lacking.[/quote] If one scores lower than 1550, perhaps aptitude is there but knowledge is somewhat lacking. Or how a kids from rural areas or anybody else with so so education not disadvantaged?[/quote] DP: Yes, this is why the test is more coachable than pre-1990s. The College Board released research supporting your point. It's not an IQ test. Of course there is a correlation between high IQ and doing well on the SAT because the test indirectly measures intelligence (reasoning) but the test was revised to measure primarily college readiness, which means skills, not intellect. [/quote] Forgot to add that the post 1990s test is arguably more valuable to colleges because it assesses readiness. Most of the research that demonstrated GPA is a higher predictor of college success is base earlier versions of the SAT. It is entirely possible that the reason why the current SAT and GPA together better predict college success is because the test now actually measures what it supposed to do.[/quote] Nah, gpa may be a higher predictor of gpa in college bc college is easy esp if you are purposely trying for a high gpa, so "college success" but why not look at "success", that is what they want. what the hell does "college readiness" even mean or matter for? beyond a low fundamental baseline suggestion that you may not fail?? it just covers the stuff that every human should have mastered. as long as you dont flunk out, the college wants interesting insightful people who will come up w new ideas be vibrant and become renowned in a field , pref famous , and give back to the school. every college outside of those grading on a curve (mit, cornell and caltech if they still do that, so 3?) is fairly "easy"[/quote]
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