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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The way to increase the number of history majors is to stop teaching race/class/gender/labor-based America-hating Left-wing drivel, but the history departments refuse to do that, so let them all sink into oblivion as they deserve.[/quote]
Hey, you seem really passionate in this. Can you show one history department that exclusive teaches race/class/gender/labor-based American...drivel? That's also a lot of groups to say "those histories don't matter to" and I'm not sure if your interpretation of history is just Constitutional law and White American studies?

Also students are the ones most interested in class/gender/race, etc. English faculty would jump to the sky if kids had any interest in old dead white rich dudes.[/quote]

History is less popular now that people know more about what actually happened. It's not fun anymore.[/quote]
Kids today learn a much more diverse and accurate history lesson. No reason to extend it to a degree, really.[/quote]

I don’t know where to begin with you except by your comment you clearly weren’t a history major.[/quote]
Nope history minor-couldn't commit to a thesis. But, if you at all have a decent high school, the kids are learning a much more diverse history than anyone a generation back. I didn't learn much "new" in my minor courses, just different fun facts that aren't grand picture knowledge points you need to know. Obviously different story for non-American studies and Native Studies.[/quote]

DP. Your position doesn't make much sense. Like any subject,  you could stop at HS level or pursue a higher level of specificity, research methods and analysis. [/quote]
I had to do research methods in high school history, but that’s just a high school dependent practice. I even had a senior thesis for my high school.[/quote]

It's not the same academic tier. You could say that for any subject.[/quote]
It was. Do tell me more about my own experience though[/quote]

No one needs to. Your HS class is not the equivalent of an upper level undergrad course. My kid took Complex Analysis in HS. Great course. Not the equivalent of college level. Same is true of any course offered at HS level. If it is not a lower or intro level college equivalent,  it is not college equivalent. You think you did it all in HS because you did a HS course of the same name and a HS thesis. These are not the same in university. [/quote]
Something tells me mathematics and history are pretty different fields to compare?

You can teach math in a very quantitative, number crunch way that doesn’t really have the same translation in history- reading books without thinking???[/quote]

You can absolutely teach history in a way that does not require thinking. [b]You just make sure the students are trained to parrot the propaganda that you feed them.[/b] This is in fact how the vast majority of history courses have been taught for decades.[/quote]

The dumbing down of America, Exhibit A. ^^^[/quote]

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