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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This thread is why my kids will not be attending US universities. I told them they can only attend a US school if they get a full scholarship. Otherwise it’s a [b]European university because the quality is much better.[/b] Also as EU citizens, the cost is much better. [/quote] Speaking on behalf of almost all US universities and colleges (for which I am not authorized), we are fine with your decision. We respect the freedom to choose as well as the freedom to criticize and to engage in disagreement. On what do you base your assessment that European universities are better than American universities ?[/quote] DP, but this is undoubtedly true. America has great good boy networks and a much stronger economy, so it doesn't matter to most, but other systems of education, including european ones, emphasize mastery at a very early level. Their first year students are where our students are...in their junior year. As a person in the sciences, it is not uncommon to be one of few Americans in a PhD program.[/quote] Highly dependent on the American college, however. Son was abroad at St Andrews, home school is ivy. The other ivy students, the Northwestern student, the UChicago kid, and the Notre Dame kid all did very well and thought St Andrews was frankly, easy, with each course requiring less work than they were used to. They were in classes with other third-year European and international students. The American students from a 30-ish LAC and several 40-50ish ranked publics struggled a lot: almost unable to keep up with the volume of reading and the prep needed for term exams., some of which were oral.[/quote] Can I tell the DCUM crowd something without pitchforks in the air? St. Andrews is a party school for the Americans, not really an elite institution. I think better comparisons are Oxbridge and the Russell Group. Many study abroad programs for Americans are also way easier, because you typically leave term before examinations (the bulk of your grade). The UK systems agree to this, because no American would actually come if they were to receive accurate grading (70 is a [b]GOOD[/b] score in the UK, 80 is practically unheard of outside of once or twice in the degree program, and a 90 means you did something revelatory.[/quote] +1[/quote]
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