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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wish it was absurd. The current tin-eared BASIS admins are the dregs.

Most my younger kid's friends won't be returning for 9th grade in the fall. This wasn't the case with my older kid. The departing students are some of the highest performers in the cohort, [b]particularly for math. [/b]

But whitewash away if it makes you feel good.[/quote]

Where are they going? I'm assuming not Walls if they are going somewhere for math.[/quote]

We left basis after 8th, went to Walls. Took Pre Calc in 9th, taking BC Calc next year in 10th[/quote]

Good for your kid. It's a myth that kids need to stay at BASIS to accelerate in math. J-R and McKinley also offer BC Cal to 10th-12th graders.[/quote]

JR let’s you take BC even in the 9th. [/quote]

How many do that?  Zero[/quote]

More than zero. [/quote]

lol

75% of J-R is BELOW grade in math.

The school can't even get a majority of its students to grade level in math.[/quote]

The point was whether there are 9th graders who can take BC at JR. And there are. It doesn’t matter how many are below grade level. [/quote]

As long as a kid has all prerequisite math courses on their transcript they can take BC as a 9th grader.  I assume this goes for any DCPS high school.[/quote]

This whole superficial advancement is not that great.  Kids don’t have a solid foundation and then you rush them to advance more.

It’s much better to have a good foundation and go deeper for challenge than advancement.  That is why when these kids from DCPS or charter go to private, they struggle or retake math they took in public. [/quote]

Why does it have to be superficial advancement? There are kids who are pretty advanced in math. Where do you think the US IMO teams and other Olympiad teams come from? [/quote]

You are joking right?  The US IMO and Olympiad kids are not getting on the team from just public school math.  They are supplementing and doing all kinds of outside programs.

Public school math is superficial advancement.  It’s the easy way out for higher performing kids rather than going deep.

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This makes no sense. If the kid is already performing at an Olympiad level the by definition the kid is ‘going ‘deep’. Most of Olympiad math is precalculus level, which these kids have mastered by 6th grade. So what else is the kid who is in public school to do but to go ahead? Calculus is not that hard. Even stupid parlor trick stuff like in Putnam. Formal analysis like measure theory is hard but no school public or private is covering that. In any case most Olympiad kids I know aren’t supplementing. Just working thru past problems and discussing among themselves. Two of them got perfect scores in BC in 9th grade. [/quote]

DP.

This person and this subthread is a bit confused.

They didn't get perfect scores in BC. They got 5s. Only about a dozen people worldwide get perfect scores each year. (College Board sends them a congratulations letter.)

Is contest math "going deep" or is it "stupid parlor tricks"?

Studying non class material is, in fact, supplementing.

Someone doing well in pre-Olympiad math would benefit from an enriched school class as well as acceleration, but sadly those exist only at a about 1 magnet school per state.

(Only 1 student in all of 4 years lf DC high schools is Olympiad level this year, a JR student)

But most kids who are accelerated in school are not pre-Olympiad. There's plenty of deeper algebra/geometry they don't know, but they have to go outside of school to learn it. But there's still room between pre-Olympiad and the low expectations of Honors classes.

And most privates aren't different from public non-magnet, until you hit places like Exeter's or Sidwell's upper level track (which have a small fraction of the school population).[/quote]

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