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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have had two kids in the greek system at UVA and yes there are fraternities which your kid can join and not be subjected to this type of hazing.  He was 100% fine with anything he did as was I as his parent. He was never forced to drink or eat anything nor in any type of life threatening situation.  And yes I do believe him. His chapter is especially dedicated to NOT hazing, which is why he chose it.

What you also have to know is that UVA is VERY strict about hazing.

PIKA is well known for hazing, as is Theta Chi. If you pledged there, you knew what you're getting into.  Not that it excuses it, but the kids know which houses will put them through hell and which won't.[/quote]

If it’s well known for hazing, why do kids choose this fraternity over other ones? [/quote]

They're top tier. If you get a bid to a top-tier frat, which most people who post in these threads didn't, you put up with 8-12 weeks of hazing in exchange for 3.5 years of god status on campus and endless mixers with the hottest sororities. Top-tier frats also plug you into an amazing professional network with tons of valuable connections for finance and consulting jobs after graduation. Short-term pain, long-term gain. And 99 times out of 100, the pain isn't really pain, just mild to moderate discomfort.[/quote]

You don’t address the Why. Why is it necessary to abuse others for 8-10 weeks? Would it be ok to do that to someone as part of the job interview for a consulting job? Why not?

You’re likely to try to avoid answering this question by attacking me. No doubt something about me being a big loser who never got into the right frat - and uses the term frat - and has had no success in life as a result.

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NP. I was not part of the Greek system at all, but even I understand why they do this. At best, light hazing forms tighter bonds in a pledge class. At worst, people die. Unfortunately, these are often groups of wealthy, coddled, incredibly inebriated kids who think they’re invincible. As teenagers, they’ve increasingly been sheltered from any real danger and they get to college and think this makes them tough guys. [/quote]

"Light hazing forms tighter bonds"

Thankful my son wanted no part of that.

My DD is in a "mid-tiered" sorority at a school that barely has a greek system (D3 school)
She did it because literally ALL of her friends were rushing.  And it was a path to excellent sophomore year housing.  Which worked out well for my kid (ended up in a large DINGLE, sharing a bathroom with only the RA in the connected room, when roommate decided not to live in sorority).  4 of her 8 best female friends ended up in the same sorority, along with most of the people she dances with (50%+ of the sorority is involved in dance).  So she ended up with simply the group of people she was going to hang out with anyhow.  Might as well get guaranteed excellent housing for sophomore year as a part of it. [/quote]

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