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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Peers matter. [/quote] THIS. [/quote] This peers matter comment is the last defense for paying $90k for private vs a large public. See it all the time on these threads. Don't get it though. To me just reeks of white old man country club vibe. What do you mean Peers matter exactly? Are you saying that you won't find motivated kids at a large public school? I have 2 kids- one motivated and one not so much. They will both have grades to get into decent colleges. They will both seek out their motivated and slacker peers when they get to college. Or are you saying that you only want your kids to go to a private college with rich kids so they have more opportunities to for connections to get hired by their friends' parents? please explain.[/quote] Who knows. I am sure some people mean it in a snobbish way, hoping for the rubbing elbows with rich, which is ridiculous. More uber-rich parents we know send their kids to SMU, Baylor, W&L than the ivies: the latter is much more likely to have students on need-based aid. There are other families that focus on the fit of peers on an intellectual level, particularly students who have been "outliers" in their schooling, never challenged because they were the smartest kid in every class. Those kids often benefit from a large majority cohort of similar intellect. Some will still be at the top, but at least they will be more challenged. Unfortunately, the kid who is used to being the smartest in high school and never challenged can end up with significant self esteem issues once surrounded by a majority that is similar: they cannot deal with being average. It is hard to know where each kid fits best. Reminds me of the Malcolm Gladwell talk on having students be at the top: some students thrive best there. But there is a point where you can be so far above 95% of peers that it does not make sense to go to a college that replicates that high school situation. [/quote] What's "uber rich" and honestly how many do you know? Once more, the statistics don't bear this out in the slightest. The Ivy schools (+MIT, Stanford, Duke) have the highest concentration of top 1% and top 0.1% families attending than all other schools and nominally have more attending as well. Just look at who is actually known to be "uber" rich vs. all the people on DCUM who claim to know lots of uber-rich people. [/quote] Uber rich = private school parents who are fully pay with 2nd and 3rd homes. I know a lot of them. And SMU, Tulane, Baylor are known as the dumb kid party schools and we know A LOT of people in various circles who send their kids there (SMU = "snowy mountain uni").... Ask your kids. Other schools to add to that list = Pepperdine; LMU; Wake (to a lesser extent now bc kids need to apply by end of Aug to get preferred treatment); U-Miami (early strategy)[/quote] Sidwell has exactly one kid going to SMU and none to Baylor or W&L. They do have a ton going to Ivy schools however. That’s not Uber rich either…Uber rich starts at $100MM+ at least. It’s the children of Gates (Stanford), Bezos (Princeton, MIT)…heck even Jerry Seinfeld’s kids (he is near $1BN) went to Duke. [/quote]
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