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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Peers matter. [/quote] THIS. [/quote] This peers matter comment is the last defense for paying $90k for private vs a large public. See it all the time on these threads. Don't get it though. To me just reeks of white old man country club vibe. What do you mean Peers matter exactly? Are you saying that you won't find motivated kids at a large public school? I have 2 kids- one motivated and one not so much. They will both have grades to get into decent colleges. They will both seek out their motivated and slacker peers when they get to college. Or are you saying that you only want your kids to go to a private college with rich kids so they have more opportunities to for connections to get hired by their friends' parents? please explain.[/quote] DP. From the perspective of a professor who has taught at a T70ish public and an ivy that is just outside the T10, there is a large significant difference in the pace of the classes, the amount of reading required each week and the research-based writing required. The faculty talent based on education was not too different, though the resources of the ivy did pull in huge talent in other areas. The student differences were unbelievable. Yes, very bright students existed at the state school, but they were a significant minority and could not be pushed to the same level as they would have been at the ivy. The average student would not have been able to keep up; admin actively encouraged making sure coursework was designed around the average student. Anyone who thinks students with an average SAT of 1300 can be pushed to the same degree and have the same success as students with an average of 1500+ has never taught both groups at a college level. [/quote]
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