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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left. [/quote]

"Only" 7%? This makes it sound like a 7% shift is trivial. That is a big shift.
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It definitely matters because it's a swing vote shift. 70% to 80% of all voters are the lower IQ sheep that will vote for any and all candidates put forth by their party of choice every election. It's the 20% to 30% of independent/uncommitted/swing voters that matter and 7% is a large chunk of those folks.[/quote]

I doubt it is as high as 7%. Most people had their minds made up.[/quote]

All of this ignores GenZ. Many of whom turned 18 after 2020. To those of us living with them (or not while they’re in college, many in swing states) it looks like they’ve been forgotten.[/quote]

Do you remember the footage of college students lined up to vote during the mid term elections? They know what’s at stake and I doubt they will sit this one out.[/quote]

Young people and 1st time voters aren't predictable or reliable. In the case of the 2024 election, I can't see them being duped into voting for Trump or Biden like we'll see with so many of the older folks that refuse to admit they were wrong. They'll look at two elderly people that have no business being POTUS until 2029 on the major party tickets and most will vote 3rd party or choose not to vote at all. Can't say I blame them. Let's hope Biden drops out of the race so we don't have to worry about this.[/quote]

Not happening. You don’t think these young women don’t care about reproductive rights? [/quote]

Some do, some don't. No single issue will make young voters predictable or reliable. If Trump or Biden were running against a normal candidate, it is safe to say that a majority of the young people that do vote, will vote for the normal candidate. This is why we are hoping Biden does the right thing by backing out of the race so that a normal candidate can crush Trump. We know Trump won't do the right thing.

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You say this as if young voters have ever experienced anything resembling normalcy. How old do you think they were when they became aware of politics? Do you think the Trump years conditioned them to expect normalcy - or to expect crisis?[/quote]

If Trump and Biden represent the only versions of a POTUS a young person can recall, they will quickly discover the difference between Trump and Biden and normal when a normal candidate surfaces as a major party nominee. Any young person will immediately see the difference between Trump/Biden and an Obama, Romney, McCain, Kerry, Bush, Gore, Dole, Clinton.....[/quote]

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