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No. Definitely not.

The idea of being forced to drive everywhere, traffic jams, rage in the parking lots, rage on the sidelines of playing fields, rage in lines, racism, HOAs, severing social ties, monotony, etc makes me physically ill.

The parts of my life that would improve by moving to the suburbs are the parts of my life that I wish I could cut out (access to shopping malls, shorter commutes for insane kid's sports, car dealerships).[/quote]

City dwellers don’t walk everywhere so stop lying
I haven’t been in a traffic jam since the last snow storm or hurricane and that was 5 cars stuck behind a fallen tree
Ever sidelines has crazy parents especially dc united clun, Gonzaga football, Georgetown basketball
More diverse in Germantown Md than most of dc
I have friends from grade school/hs/new neighborhoods/life… more likely to gather every weekend on someone’s deck than at a cramped bar,
Monotony is going to the same places within walking distance which is why you no longer walk everywhere [/quote]

Some city dwellers really do walk everywhere. We have one car and only use it once or twice a week and one of those times is for my spouse to commute to a job... in the suburbs. We walk to our kid's school, the grocery store, the library, etc. Also lots of biking and public transportation.

I'm not anti-suburb but we do actually worry that if we moved we'd wind up spending a thousand percent more time in the car. We're trying to find a suburb where this wouldn't be the case as we'd love to have more space and get away from the crime issues but we are never going to come anywhere close to the level of convenience and walkability we have now.[/quote]

Keep in mind that means you can actually afford to live in a walkable area of DC. Finding that with space for two kids generally requires the ability to purchase very expensive housing.

I lived in DV but could not afford an area like that. We could walk to a playground and maybe the library and a 7-11. We drove everywhere all the time.[/quote]

So unable to pay for the urban life, you retreated to the burbs. [/quote]

Yes but also we lived next to a hoarder with a roach infestation and other major nuisances I don't go into. So you can say there were multiple factors like never ever ever ever ever wanting to share walls with a neighbor again. 
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Oh and a large yard is blissful especially as someone who adores gardening... Especially without a rat parade and where I can drink my coffee and stare at my plants in peace without excessive litter or people constantly walking by smoking pot which stinks[/quote]

My dc row house also has a garden? And I have a community garden plot and I have hundreds of acres of parkland. [/quote]
LOL! Your garden wouldn’t even be the size of one of my flower beds.[/quote]

And responses like this are why I want nothing to do with suburban “culture”. Desperate consumerism to prove you’re better than the people in the ticky tack box next door who you hate. [/quote]

DP. Your response makes no sense. It's a fact that a DC row house garden is likely not going to be the same size as a suburban one, and a gardener might not be satisfied with that limitation. Has nothing to do with consumerism, but with what each of us enjoys doing with our spare time. As a gardener, I enjoy puttering around in my garden, listening to bird song, providing habitat for them, and all in relative peace and quiet. Other people might find that boring. [/quote]

I don’t garden to impress anyone. I don’t care how big the size of your garden is. The tit for tat, keep up with the jones mentality is what is so gross.

Maybe you didn’t think of that but it’s telling that your initial response to hearing that someone has a garden they enjoy is to insist yours is bigger.[/quote]

Not that poster, but it's a valid point that if one loves to garden, a bigger yard than a row house yard may be preferable. I posted earlier about enjoying a larger yard for gardening than what we had in front our row house, dealing with rats ruining vegetable plants (which can happen in the burbs but dear/rabbits better than rats), and community gardening didnt work for me.

I also hated being out front with my garden with neighbors constantly passing by.

I wasn't always into gardening, but once I got into it, felt frustrated with city gardening [/quote]

That's cool And if you want lots of space to do lots of gardening, then moving somewhere with big plots is maybe a good idea.

But it's really absurd to think that people can't enjoy nice things, like gardening, just because they live in the city. What I really objected to is the immediate "mine is bigger" response. [/quote]

Agree that gardening can certainly be done in the city. If I had time (I don't), I would have loved to volunteer with a guerilla gardening organization in DC. But really this whole thread is about people having different needs and preferences and priorities and one isn't better than the other. [/quote]

Sure, but people from the suburbs seem so desperate for validation. I do not care if their garden is bigger—what kind of person would ever try to put someone else down over garden size?[/quote]

The people from the suburbs are not seeking validation. [b]They are just living[/b]. They are not in angst about others' choices as you are. you are the one who is so confused that some do not want to live in the city. [/quote]

I don’t know, there is one poster on here who is rabid about the idea of anyone wanting to live near a metro station. 
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