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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m a HYPS alum as well and have conducted admissions interviews. I think part of the problem is so many of these kids ARE brilliant and interesting but have been told that they must excel at a sport, volunteer, lead a club, start a charity, know what they want to study. Of course kids who are packaged for success as if it’s a formula aren’t always as passionate or interesting because they’ve never felt completely free to just explore and figure out what their interests really are. This isn’t true for every kid but it certainly is for some.[/quote]

Since this is anonymous, why don't people just say where they went to school? I went to stanford and I have to say my classmates and recent freshmen were all well rounded.  California vibe probably helps.[/quote]

DD graduated from Stanford two years ago and did not have the same experience. Found that many of her classmates were uber-competitive grinder types. Very heavily focused on STEM, and many of her classmates looked down on her for wanting to pursue a career in the arts. I wish she went somewhere like Brown or Wesleyan.

Of course, Stanford is a great school for many students. Just not a good fit for certain folks. [/quote]

Bizarre take.  If a school is full of competitive people, no the atmosphere is high pressure not enjoyable (unless you are a sadist).
Your daughter is likely the exception.  Majority like it:

https://tableau.stanford.edu/t/IRDS/views/SeniorSurveyPublicDashboards/SeniorSurveyResults?%3Aembed=y&%3Atoolbar=n[/quote]

I think this supports that poster's point.  If most students are uber-competitive grinder types, then it follows that they would like their school if that's the dominant ethos. [/quote][/quote]

Every successful person is a grinder type…including people like Taylor Swift, Dave Grohl, The Beatles…heck, read the Motley Crue book…they were grinders as well.[/quote]
Inspiration and hard work to pursue an artistic passion vs. extrinsically motivated conformists packaging themselves to be societal machine cogs.[/quote]

Except read their stories…you could replace pop music for banking and it’s almost identical.  They wanted to be stars…not just pursue an artistic passion…but to become rich and famous doing it.

They would identify more with successful business people than failed artists sticking to their artistic purity.[/quote]

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