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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]While entire teams are not pre-made, the majority of them are.  Perhaps 70-80% of the roster.  This spring I knew two of the three coaches in my kid's age group.  Both coaches told me exactly which kids were getting offers to which teams and exactly which kids were not getting offers.

So, while there is perhaps 1-4 potential open spots it's not uncommon for teams to be "pre-made".  Now, the issue comes when clubs don't always place the best players with the top teams because they want all their teams to perform well so they spread out the bubble players.  This is unfair to those players because proper development requires players to be around players of even skill (usually).  Otherwise, it's a wasted season.[/quote]

That’s because of positioning requirements.

18 person teams don’t need 4 keepers right? Same is true of other positions, they don’t need 6 forwards or 4 center backs. So yes, the top 6 forwards in a club’s age bracket are going to get broken up across the top two teams, even if forward number 5 is - on a 4 corners eval - better than 14 of the players on the top team.[/quote]

What about 12 roster teams?  Also, you're missing the point.  The point is coaches already know who they want back regardless.  So, the tryouts are not really tryouts.  I do feel bad for some kids who try hard to get onto a team, only not to be selected because they were overlooked (even if they are better than an existing team player).

In the end the point was coaches already know who they want on the roster and do they do not.  And most team managers are aware of this because they have to work together on rosters and guest players, etc.[/quote]

12 person rosters are mainly for 7v7 and on occasion you’ll see short rosters on 9v9 with only 12 (it should really be closer to 15 at 9v9 though) - that is really a different soccer team and coaches are very limited because of the structure of 7 and 9 sided football. They need a bunch of middies. 9v9 is even tougher, because the game adds 4 field players but doesn’t adequately expand the pitch.

We agree! Coaches absolutely know who they want on their teams if the kids are already on the team or exposed to the coach. But most solid coaches are aware of their own blind spots and want the best team they can put together. The bubble is really always at risk, and the top players are most at risk from outside players - which come from ID/tryouts/kids that move and scouts (yes…clubs have scouts that pull players from out of the area / state to come play, especially on the boys side).

My point was mainly in addition to yours.
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