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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because Trump has genuinely said that he'll become a dictator if elected. The choice is between democracy and authoritarianism. It's that simple. Also, he'll be dead in four years. Trump is the difference.[/quote] But progressives are also totalitarian -Environmental laws and regulations-gas is evil and we must not use -Pronouns and gender -Roads and suburbs are evil and must be eliminated and list goes one At this point we just need to choose the totalitarian regime we can tolerate. [/quote] On the environment, if you want to deny climate change, then sure, we should just continue to use fossil fuels. However, we are seeing more extreme storms in Oklahoma and Texas right now that are coming at a time of year not normal just as one more example of climate change. We are also seeing the renewable energy use right now as extending the US as a an energy exporter, which is a good thing. Why not more of that, while reducing carbon burn tat the same time? On pronouns and gender...this is like a .01% thing that the right has latched on to. Who cares? Roads and Suburbs: face it, what we have done for the last century for the built environment has led to many bad results: more pollution, less efficient land use, longer commutes (thus harming the family unit) and horrible health and mental health outcomes. If we know what we are doing doesn't work, then why not try something else?[/quote] You prove my point. Again, I am not trying to convince you, just trying to warn about you. [/quote] Are you one of the ones griping about not getting insurance coverage on the coasts? Too bad. I don't want to subsidize your Sun Belt fantasy anymore. Don't support climate mitigation efforts. Fine. However, don't look to folks like me to bail you out the next time your house floods or gets totaled by a wild fire. No more FEMA money to rebuild in flood and disaster zones. Let's let the free market work itself out. [/quote] See, it is your way or no way. You don't tolerate disagreement or discussion actually because your way is morally superior. [/quote] I tolerate plenty of disagreement. You can deny climate change all you want and even actively support policies against that. What I find objectionable is that you're free from the consequences of those decisions. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. And that's true for healthcare, for worker's rights, for infrastructure, for the social safety when you lose your job or age out, for reproductive and minority rights because at some point, one of these things is going to affect you or someone close to you. [/quote] I disagree with all that you just stated. My policy ideas would run counter to your policy ideas. Doesn't mean I hate people and am not seeking the best for them, would just approach it in a way different than you, and I have different ideas on what is best. Progressives would not tolerate this however. In their minds they have figured out what it best, true wisdom is on their side. [/quote] I am not the person you are responding to but here is the thing...you want to, for example, deny climate change, but you have no issue collecting FEMA money when you are impacted the the effects of climate change. So the PP is simply suggesting that if you want to deny climate change, then you should live with that decision and not be reliant on federal monies to bail you out. So that is your policy idea. It isn't a matter of "not tolerating" it, it just isn't reality to suggest we can continue to pollute the earth and not have follow on health and ecological impacts that at some point, make the planet uninhabitable. I think most rational humans understand this and choose a different path. The good news for you, if the "leftists" win in this policy debate, then people like you and your offspring will benefit by virtue of still having a planet to live on.[/quote]
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