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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Some of you will not believe me, but I served in a very high level detail in the federal gov't during 2022-23. As the detail was ending, I had a private exit conversation with a senate-confirmed agency head. When they asked what I was doing next, I replied that I had applied several times over the last few years for an SES role in their agency (and others) and this person said that although I was highly qualified, well known and liked etc., it was "highly likely" that I wasn't invited to interview because I am a white male. I couldn't believe they would actually say this aloud.

FWIW - I was literally abandoned as a teenager, finished high school while living on my own, and put myself through 5 years of undergrad (because I worked full time) and 6 years to get a PhD, also while working outside jobs. Sometimes, there were months on end where I didn't have a day off, but it's because of my skin color and the associated privilege that I was successful. Whatevs.

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The response to your story from someone in the DEI field would be that throughout this you still benefitted from white privilege, which you did.

I get it though.  I'm a similar story of low-income white person who improved myself, etc.[/quote]

You’ve been brainwashed. No one is immune from privilege. If you are an American. Can walk. Are healthy. Have food. A family who loves you, you have something someone else does not. It is NOT limited to race, but these stupid programs aren’t nuanced enough for that kind of reflection.

Stop expecting people to feel bad. Society should not be encouraged to mope around full of guilt and whipping themselves all day. Probably explains the growing number of people offing themselves.

Just try to be nice and decent. And no, not as a mandate.
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Ha.  I'm not brainwashed.  I am smart enough to know this country was built on the backs of free black labor and for generations the systems were set up to hoard wealth and opportunity with white people and the impacts of that are still in place all around us.  Why is that hard to understand.  Basic history.  Implying all Americans have the same level of privilege makes you sound super dumb.

However, I do not think people should mope around full of guilt and whipping themselves all day.  I'm a white person with a great life and let's see... zero of the white people I know are doing that so you seem to be worrying about something that's not actually happening.

Life is more complex than you're making it out to be.  [/quote]

It's a funny claim and historically wrong because for much of American history blacks were predominately concentrated in the South and in agriculture. They didn't build the railroads, work in the coal mines, staff the factories of the north until well into the 20th century, clear the vast forests of the midwest, break the sod on the prairies, etc cetera.

Black labor definitely played a role in helping create American prosperity but blacks did not "build" the country. If anything, how could they build the country [b]when they effectively weren't allowed to be anything more than the most basic field hand[/b] and housemaid for much of American history? Ultimately, America really was built by white people for white people, which ironically is also what a lot of CRT people like to say too without realizing the full extent of their message when they focus about the hostility towards black people (which is also true, white Americans have historically not wanted black people around and resented their presence).

As it is, life is definitely way more complicated than DEI proponents like you want to believe in your delusional woe is me mindset. I'm a historical realist. Not a cherry picker of facts to explain away your personal failures.

But I'll tell you who the real privileged people are these days. The young urban black men who get to run red lights while the police do nothing. [/quote]

The average black slave lived a similar life as a poor white sharecropper. Many people focus on a slave owner versus a slave, and don’t consider that slave owners were in the minority. There are numerous studies and papers about average calories, work hours etc and slaves truly had a very similar lifestyle as a poor white sharecropper. [b]Of course slaves were owned and didn’t have their freedom but did the average poor white person in the south have a lot of freedom?[/b]  But you’re not allowed to say any of this.

I think DEI has done more harm than good which is a shame. [/quote]

Are you serious? Was the average white a slave? Yes the average white person in the south had a lot of freedom. They weren’t in chains. [b]They could move west, north if they didn’t find opportunities south.
Maybe you don’t know what freedom is. [/b][/quote]

No, the average white sharecropper didn’t have any money or the means to relocate to another part of the country. They didn’t have access to transportation of any kind - even a horse.

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