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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The article and the list don't actually seem to have anything to do with one another. Why wouldn't the list be a compilation of the top 10 public and top 10 private colleges that the respondents indicate where they hire the most graduates? Makes no sense that it is just a list of schools with high standardized test scores (although, strange that they say if only more than 50% of the schools had kids reporting test scores...seems like that threshold should be much higher)...and not a list of where companies hire kids.[/quote] I don't know what questions were asked but, here's what they looked at: [quote]we also screened with a selectivity yardstick (below a 20% admission rate at private schools, 50% at publics). And then from there, we took the 32 remaining schools and surveyed our hiring manager respondents about each one.[/quote] [/quote] So, they cut the list to 32 schools through simply a selectivity yardstick and then asked the respondents? I still don't get it. Why wouldn't you ask the respondents to list the top 20 schools based on who they actually hire...which is factual and the hiring manager would know...get all those responses and then create the list based on the responses. Why does it matter how selective a school may be. It's funny because they quote Mark Cuban who went to Indiana University and Kelley is a top ranked program...yet IU wasn't even an option for the respondents because it didn't make the cut down to 32 schools.[/quote] I don't know what companies they surveyed, but generally, hiring is regional. So, if they ask the question of "what colleges do you hire the most from", it may be skewed due to locality. For example, Google hires a lot from San Jose State Univ because it's in the heart of SV (I work in tech, and full disclosure, I went to SJSU). But, SJSU doesn't make any "great colleges" list. So, if you ask Google what colleges they hire from, you'll get a skewed list.[/quote] That’s not the question they asked. Why do people attempt to rebut something they haven’t even read? [/quote] I did read the article. The question cannot be answered directly because we don't know exactly what was asked or what companies were surveyed. But, generally, the most colleges a company hires from can be due to location rather than anything else, so asking the question "which college do you mostly hire from" may not be an indication of what that the article was addressing, which is that more and more hiring managers view the state flagships and the lesser tiered privates a lot more favorably than 5 years ago.[/quote] If you graduated from an Ivy, your lack of reading comprehension is telling. [/quote]
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