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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Better to have a low test score than a GPA lower than 3.75UW. They say our kids shouldn't stress about grades -- then they make it ALL about grades. You can't have a bad day or a bad year because your 1500 SAT won't make up for those Bs even if was in AP classes. [/quote]
 This is why TO should go away. Someone who has a UW3.6 but took high rigor classes and gets a 1560 on SAT belongs in a elite college, someone who has a UW4.0 but took easier classes , or has grade inflation, and gets a 1290 does not.[/quote]

Says who? We see your bias, but it doesn't make it so.[/quote]

I think what a lot of people who cling to test scores as the end-all be-all don't want to admit is that they are malleable too.  The difference between the 1300 kid and the 1500 kid is often $10,000 in test prep or a fake diagnosis that gives the latter extra time.  I'm not saying test scores don't matter or shouldn't be part of a holistic review but as a parent (with two kids that score pretty well on these things) I would hate for the highest scorers to get in...but not as much as I hate the bumps to legacies and athletes.[/quote]
no way. No test prep would bring a score of 1300 to 1500.  It might bring a 1300 to 1400, maybe, but not 1500.

I have two kids -- one scored 1580 with no prepping other than at home. The other one will probably score <1400 even with test prep.[/quote]

So you have 2 kids and think you know how ALL kids would do with extra test prep? I taught high school. Some of my best students—best writers, asked most thoughtful questions in class, made insightful comments, etc (I taught history), did all their work, went above and beyond my expectations, challenged me w their questions/curiosity/desire to learn and were clearly very bright, straight As across all their subjects…guess what? Some of them did very poorly on SAT/ACT because they weren’t good test takers. Nothing to do w their intelligence, intellectual abilities. Nothing to do with how hard they worked in school or what a great addition they would be to any college campus. It’s just a test. It’s a test that a lot of smart kids don’t do well on. It’s a test that a lot of excellent students don’t do well on.

Those kids absolutely benefited from test prep. Many brought their scores up considerably after taking test prep courses or getting SAT tutoring.

Your sample size of 2 is not indicative of all kids. [/quote]
? That wasn't my point.  A PP stated that tutoring could raise the SAT score by 200.  That is what I was addressing.  Tutoring won't change a score from 1300 to 1500.

I'm also learning that GPAs don't mean much due to either grade inflation or a bad teacher.  There are some teachers whom you cannot understand, and they typically are STEM teachers.  DC bumped up their math trajectory to avoid certain math teachers whom everyone stated were difficult to understand.

And before you accuse me of being racist, I'm Asian American, and I don't understand some people with strong foreign accents. I come across it at work all the time, and it can be frustrating.  But, I'm an adult, and we can always try to communicate via email/chat, and/or I ask them to repeat.  Students cannot due that so easily.[/quote]

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