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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not harrassing and manipulating teachers is it's own incentive.  In otherwords,  we could do our jobs with autonomy and the system would be sued less and governed more fairly if admin positions simply did not exist.[/quote]

😂🤣😂🤣. That would be a fun experiment to watch.  They should actually simulate that out with teachers, parents and a facilitator across a couple weeks.

I’d like to see who would rise up to become the defacto admins, community chairs, and collaborators.[/quote]

[b]As long as the de facto admins remain teachers[/b] instead of stepping full-time into an office, the experiment would be a success.

It’s when people leave the classroom but continue to be “experts” that we fall into the mess we have now.[/quote]

First you didn’t call for Admins to remain teachers you suggested getting rid of them all together.

Second was does remain teachers mean? One class, half a day, an AP class, what?

Third, what those defacto admin are going to find is that the  pressures and expectations are different when you have to start making decisions that impact are whole lot of people.  They are also going to find that there is a whole slew of things that need decisions, work,  and reporting/compliance that teachers aren’t fully responsible for.  And they are going to quickly find out that in a district the scale of MCPS, without some Admin who don’t have split focus, important things are going to be missed and lots of things are going to be done 200 different ways.

There’s a reason that when organization scale they start having management roles.  [/quote]

You are responding to two different posters. I called for making admin teach. Another poster called for removing admin all together.

Other countries make it work. Perhaps it’s time for us to consider smaller districts so the sheer size of MCPS isn’t an issue. I have a friend who is an “admin” overseas. She works with a group of teachers who run the school, but each person continues to teach a small set of classes. They not only make school-wide decisions, but they serve as models to younger teachers who are able to come observe their methods. Makes sense.

What we are doing right now isn’t working. I’ll be honest: I know my admin can’t do what I do every day. Some haven’t taught in 10-15 years, and a lot has changed since then. Teachers continue to gain experience and administrators don’t. It’s hard to look at them as leaders when they are adjacent to the classroom and not in it. They only superficially understand what current teachers are experiencing.

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So what you want is Teacher-Powered charter schools.  That already exist in the country.[/quote]

People shouldn’t have to choose charters or private schools in order to have a well-run school. [/quote]

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