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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think they are equal in reputation so would let student pick which they prefer, assuming cost is similar.[/quote] They absolutely aren't[/quote] You're right. UMD is ranked higher (46) than WM (53). https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities[/quote] And yet, according to Parchment, when applicants are admitted to both, they choose W&M over UMD-CP 70% to 30%. Revealed preference tells us a lot more than pseudoscience rankings. [/quote] preferences can be about many things, and not necessarily about academics.[/quote] Yes, but what makes a university “better” than another if not the revealed preference of a population who can choose between them? What you think is important is NOT the only criteria in evaluating a university. And there is no way accurate way to measure the “academics” between the two in a way that you can say flatly one is stronger than the other. Sure UMD is bigger and offers things that W&M does not, but what W&M does do I think it does quite well.[/quote] Certainly, it depends on when and who took the survey, and what their majors are. Harvard is the most popular on parchment, [b]but a serious student would choose UMD over Harvard for CS.[/b] Parchment also shows Michigan State as top 20 most popular. You think an Econ major would choose Mich State over W&M? Also, the stats on parchment for the colleges are almost 10 years old. A lot has changed in 10 years.[/quote] On what basis are you making that assertion?[/quote] The many high stats CS students I know, and yes, rankings. For example, the number of published papers in CS coming out colleges: Harvard isn't on the list but UMD is. https://csrankings.org/#/index?all&us That list changes month to month but only slightly because it's based on the publications. But UMD is always somewhere on that list, and Harvard is not. Look up most CS rankings.. Harvard is usually not up there. Harvard has the name prestige, but it's not really known for a top CS program. I have a friend who went to Harvard for law; their DC is a CS major, and they didn't think their DC should apply to Harvard.[/quote] Published papers just means a school has a greater graduate/research focus. Says nothing about the actual quality of the program.[/quote] You're probably correct. UMD has an inferior CS program. [/quote] says someone not in CS.[/quote] I believe that was sarcasm. [/quote] IDK.. some folks on here think W&M is better than UMD for Engineering.[/quote] Nice attempt at misdirection. The PP showed that W&M is on a WSJ list of top publics for pay in Tech sector. UMD is not. Neither UMD or W&M appeared on the WSJ list for top publics for pay in Engineering. This is of course expected for W&M because it does not have Engineering. UMD does, but as indicated, it is not top 20. [/quote] ^^ W&M appeared on the top publics for pay in tech which would be CS and Data Science[/quote] Neither makes the list for Data Science. They don't have a list specific to CS. https://www.wsj.com/articles/top-colleges-high-paying-jobs-data-science-989e6d79[/quote]
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