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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My siblings a college professor.  He says it’s really bad for years and gotten worse.  [b]Critical thought is dead and there is no interest in reviving it.[/b]  It’s bad news[/quote]

That's because we no longer teach kids in a way that makes sense to teach them critical thinking. First stuff their heads with facts in elementary (so they have a basis from which to even begin to think), then teach them logic in middle, then teach the persuasion in high school. [url=https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Tools-Learning-Dorothy-Sayers/dp/1941129862]Dorothy Sayers was right[/url].[/quote]

They're now being taught persuasive writing in elementary school.  That's one of the things that is leading to all these unintended consequences.  Research is no longer about gathering general information that then gets analayzed.  Research nowadays is entirely about finding support for the argument they come up with first.[/quote]

Persuasive writing is a standard written format that has been around since I was a kid (and I just mentioned ditto machines in one of my posts, so that's a long, long time).  There is nothing new about it.  The skill being taught is not research - it's crafting a written argument so that one supports one's statements.  It's about learning the logic of what can soundly support a statement and what can't.  Only when one understands that can one actually read and understand research.  Researching is a completely different skill, and writing a research paper is a much more elevated and advanced form of writing.  Learning how to support an argument is vital - and supporting some stupid idea that you came up with on a whim, perhaps even supporting a stupid idea you don't even agree with, is a very important skill.  It's sometimes called "debate."  And I'm sure you've heard of that - definitely not new.
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Thank you for your condesencion but I am fullt aware of what persuasive writing is and it is beyond stupid to teach persuasive writing before expository writing.[/quote]

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