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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like this would take us down the road of people wearing stars, crosses and moons. That is, of identifying by their religion. There have been Supreme Court cases about whether any of these should be allowed in the workplace because it might make others uncomfortable. Would you really want to work in an office where 2/3 were wearing crosses? [/quote] And rulings have consistently been that religious people are free to wear them. There is no uncertainty here. Yeah, "there have been Supreme Court case". There have also been rulings, you idiot. You are advocating the same line of thinking that prohibits women from covering their heads (whether Muslim or Christian--this is also a historical Christian practice) or taking on other self-identifying marks of faith. Just because YOU don't think these symbols are important doesn't mean you can enforce that on everyone else.[/quote] Whoosh. Look who’s calling who an idiot. The question is, do you really want all your Christian and Palestinian coworkers saying, hey, cool, it’s ok again to broadcast our religions (after not being completely ok for a while), so I’ll go ahead pull my confirmation cross/moon back out? Some people feel uncomfortable surrounded by crosses at work or being treated by someone with a cross. So yeah, those people have brought cases all the way to the Supreme Court. As you rudely said as you missed the point, yeah, SCOTUS has ruled. But the point was the discomfort that made people bring the cases. I take it you’d be fine it though. [/quote] I got your point, but I didn't respond to the stupidest part, the "uncomfortable" comment. What you're really saying is that you're such a bigot that if your Muslim coworker was wearing a crescent necklace you would be...what? "Uncomfortable" to the point of, again, what? It's an absurd and stupid point. You are talking about "comfort" vs. someone closely held religious belief that does not hurt you. Be "uncomfortable". It is the tiny, tiny price of living in a free, pluralist society.[/quote] You can ensure that nobody, ever, would be made uncomfortable by this? Why did anybody bring cases that went all the way to the Supreme Court, then?[/quote] No, you have it exactly backwards. I am [u]sure[/u] people will be made uncomfortable. My point is that that is okay. It is okay that people are sometimes uncomfortable in their workplaces. Some people disagree, and think they should never have to be uncomfortable at work, so they litigated all the way to the Supreme Court. SCOTUS spoke: Sometimes you have to be a little uncomfortable at work. See?[/quote] I got the decision and you sound like a broken record. You keep deliberately missing the point. It's that some people ARE uncomfortable. Viz the several religious minorities in this thread who claim they are put off by Christmas displays. Pls explain why you want to encourage another type of identity politics, where everybody wears their religious signs around their necks. Yes, yes, you can stop repeating already that SCOTUS has sanctioned this. But do you think it's a good idea for anybody (Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu) to be putting their religion in others' faces? [/quote] Wearing a religious symbol as jewelry is not identity politics, sorry. It is merely identity, and must be protected. As to your assertion that someone wearing a religious necklace is putting their religion in your face...well, get your face off their neck, I guess. I won't respond to you any more. The stupid is too much.[/quote] Exactly. I am not religious at all but pp's hysterical assertion that wearing a religious sign on a necklace is putting religion in somone else's face deserves derision.[/quote]
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