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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's already a barbell at the top privates. The kids either have gobs of money (think travel via chartered private jets).... or they are on scholarship. There's no one at these schools with two middle manager parents.[/quote] Agree.[/quote] The middle is the majority, how come top colleges/privates are not thinking what they are creating? Why high stat kids from MC family gets overlooked for rich or low income families? In other words, kids from MC are being discriminated by top colleges due to not their performance but due to family income.[/quote] Because it's a business. And their business priorities are 1) Grow the endowment (richy rich people) 2) Create mobility for the underprivileged (take care of the poor) Middle-class families are not their priority bc middle-class families can access a college education. It may not be Yale but they can go to Uconn for example.[/quote] Middle class is supposed to stay middle class. If they become upper middle class trying to be entry level wealthy, private colleges put them back in middle class with high cost. If they don't go for full pay, their kids can't attend ivies, if they pay ivies, they can't retire in peace.[/quote] Yes, that is the reality. And...........it's not like you're not playing the game. Isn't this why we have a spate of 18-year-olds majoring in CS? [/quote] So sacrifice kids at the alter, instead of letting them study what they enjoy and are good at?[/quote] DP here. Most CS students I know are CS because their parents picked their major (and school). Regarding middle class - so it is okay for them to get financial aid and attend private high schools, but it is not okay for them to get financial aid at colleges? Not following. [/quote] Who said anything about not receiving aid? [b]Middle-class families can and do receive financial aid from many universities. [/b]Especially if their stats are higher than the school's average. [b]I think the PP is speaking out of both sides of her mouth... "Education is what matters, let them study what they want to study! Education is what matters!" [b]"And I want them to go to Yale!!!"[/b] [/b] [/quote] PP here. This is the impression I am getting. But to say that students are only at the schools OP mentioned because those students are rich, is telling me that they know little if anything about these schools. [/quote] There's someone who knows little but it's you. We are ACTIVELY deciding on some of these school right now. ZERO merit at many of them. And what merit there is, is for truly gifted kids (fine). There is need-based available. Or full pay at in excess of $80K/year. Nothing in between. Now, you move much further down the "rankings", yes, merit is more readily available. But this thread was about tuition/attendance at ELITE schools. [/quote] DP. Wow, you are snarly. There shouldn't be merit aid at elite schools because everyone is meritous to get in. They are NEED based. Middle class, even upper middle class get need based aid at the elite schools. So, either you make a lot, or have a lot of savings/real estate, or just didn't submit css or this school isn't at the level that has great aid.[/quote]
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