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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a "you're both right" situation.

Getting imperfect grades year after year may very well knock out the T10 or maybe T20 schools. If those are what you mean when you say "competitive colleges". Unless your kid is hooked.

I remember one AO saying, "listen kids, don't fret - one B is fine".  He meant 1 B over 4 years.  Or three years - 9th grade doesn't really count.

It's like saying a 95% on the SAT is great - it is.  But it's also a 1410 and it's not getting you into Yale.

Best you can do is talk up some schools that make sense for all smart kids with Aish averages.  When you hear a kid got into Princeton, say, "That's awesome. They're going to have so much fun".  When you hear a kid got into Syracuse, say, "That's awesome. They're going to have so much fun."

Because that's true!  Set the tone, it will be fine, And picking the easy teacher sometimes is fine too.  high school is hard these days[/quote]

This.  Also, there's always grad school.  Always wanted to attend an Ivy for undergrad, didn't get in.  Then I worked after undergrad did really interesting things and guess what?  Got into a top Ivy for graduate school, but it was the right program for me.  There are many great universities and programs not in the T10 or T20.

I would also look into moving your child to another HS. Is this kind of mindset good for them?  Is this part of the mental health issues that are impacting young people today?

My BIL went to random state schools because that is where he got aid.  Went to law school too, again, at schools most people wouldn't know.  He is incredibly successful.  He worked hard, and knew what his end goal was and got there without some degree from a T50 school even.  [b]He is first generation[/b], but now he is pressuring his kids like crazy.  He says his oldest must get into MIT and keeps pushing that kid (in elementary).  It makes me sad that this pressure is coming from everywhere.  My nephew was asking me about my time at graduate school and I told my nephew there are plenty of other schools and programs and he should decide where to go and his dad came over and goes, "no, he is getting into MIT."

While I do believe that focus and hard work is what matters in the end, your BIL also had a pretty significant hook. Not even for undergrad admissions. It helps to be first generation applying on to law school.

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Probably because two people can come to completely opposite conclusions when given the same facts.

Your conclusion for BIL is that he didn't need any name schools because he worked hard and is successful.  Perhaps his conclusion is that he had to work 2x as hard as everyone else at non-name schools just to get to the same place that kids that worked 50% less then him, but went to the "right" schools.

I know a guy that dropped out of Indiana and started a successful Tech company...his verdict is that no way his kid is going to Indiana or anything that smells like Indiana, because he thought it was worthless.  I don't know what schools he thinks are acceptable, but I would imagine they are all top names.[/quote]

It's his own bias based on his situation and great luck at being successful. The reality is most who graduate from Indiana will do better than drop outs.[/quote]

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