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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I take it you did not previously travel to London before you moved there? It's been going down hill since before Brexit.[/quote]

Never traveled to London before living here

We are here until q3 2025 😭 [/quote]

I can empathize!  I lived there for less than a year of a supposedly permanent move.  I HATED it.  The winters are the worst too!  So dark at 4pm and always overcast.[/quote]

Like much of the northern US in winter...[/quote]

London is farther North than most of the Northern US in winter.  Certainly farther north than us here in DC.  So, yes, it's darker there in winter.  Just a fact, really.[/quote]

I have a house in Massachusetts. Sunset today is at 5:27. In London it is at 5:36. In December/January both are at around 4:15. [/quote]

Your winter numbers are off.  There's only about 15 minutes of difference in sunlight today, but the further north you are the longer the days are in the summer, so you gain sunlight more quickly as the spring goes on.  There's more difference during the winter solstice, where Boston has 9 hours 4 min of daylight and London has 7 hours 49 min. An hour and 15 minutes is substantial, especially as every hour that goes away comes from the time that there is actual full daylight. The sun is never as bright because it's lower on the horizon, so it's like sunrise and then a moment of daytime and then sunset. That's made even worse if it's cloudy and gray, as the sun rarely gets strong enough to penetrate.

London is further north in latitude than Quebec City. London stays warmer because of the Gulf Stream, but that doesn't affect the amount of daylight. Boston is at 42.3 degrees latitude, London is at 51.5 and Anchorage is at 61.2.  In Anchorage, the speed at which the light comes and goes is actually noticeable from day to day, and I've never experienced that in New England (outside of maybe Maine).

https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/london[/quote]

Yes, there are fewer hours of sunlight in the winter compared to Eastern MA but the shortfall is in the morning. The sunset times are not very different from late fall to late winter, obviously it stays light much later in England in the summer, while where we are in MA it gets dark about an hour earlier than here in DC. But enough on this topic - go on and complain more about England.[/quote]

The measurement of daylight is from sunrise to sunset. It takes the same amount of time for the sun to rise and set, and the shorter the day, the lower it is on the horizon, so what you lose is hours of full daylight (no matter what time it is when it occurs -- that's subject to longitude and where you are in your time zone).   If you're in an area that has very short days, you basically get a sunrise followed by a sunset, and it's never really full on sunshine, even when the weather isn't gray. Losing those hours of full daylight makes a big difference.  [/quote]

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