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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m more surprised at the number of parents who show up and don’t watch any of the games or practices. At the most recent game, woman’s son made a great play and she had no idea because she was talking about random stuff with another parent. [/quote]

Again, read the books / articles on this…because that’s actually what the kids prefer.

Also, sometimes as part of carpool I might stick around for practice because it was more efficient vs dropping off and returning home just to turn around again…but I don’t give a rats a** about the practice.  I knew my kid was getting good instruction…why do I need to pay attention to a practice?[/quote]

You’re never going to convince me that most kids want their parents to be completely oblivious to their on field accomplishments. I’m sure they don’t want their parents screaming stupid crap or being otherwise embarrassing, but I’m not talking about that. [/quote]

Hey, go buy the book and read it or get it from your library.  https://www.amazon.com/Matheny-Manifesto-Managers-Old-School-Success/dp/055344672X

I mean, it's not like the guy doesn't know of what he writes.

I don't think you appreciate that even innocuous cheering causes pressure on kids.  We aren't just talking about the obvious parents that are trying to actively coach their kids from the stands.

It is also the old, "don't praise accomplishments, praise effort".  You think you are just being nice when you say "Nice Homerun today"...your kid hears that you are only proud of him when he hits a home run, but you probably think he is a POS if he makes an error.  I mean, you never praise him for showing great form when he struck out...or better yet, it is much better to hit a hard line drive that the 3B has to leap to catch (and your kid is out) vs. the little blooper that just happened to land in shallow RF.

But sure, you are the expert...even though the true experts say otherwise.[/quote]

NP.  You sound unhinged.  You read ONE BOOK that contains the opinions of ONE MAN.

And as far as the praising effort stuff, we’re not talking about toddlers here.  The kid doesn’t think that hitting a line drive straight to the third baseman is just as good as hitting a blooper that gets him on base… because it’s not.  That’s how the game is played and I am guessing kids this age find it very cringe to have mommy praising them for errors or easily catchable non-hits.[/quote]

I sound unhinged?  I mean look at what you wrote.  You just don't understand probably your own kid.  Also, there are many books and much research on the topic, which the book actually cites.  It is not opinions.

BTW, the kid should care more about hitting the line drive that wasn't straight to the 3rd baseman, but rather the 3rd baseman leapt and made a great catch.  [b]Why, because a college coach cares WAY MORE about a kid that hit that ball, then the kid who managed to eke out a little blooper to shallow RF.  So, I would absolutely praise the former and just not mention the latter. [/b]

It's fine if you don't understand high level sports or have a recruitable player...you can celebrate your kid's mediocrity and also make your kid feel like s**t otherwise.[/quote]

“It is also the old, "don't praise accomplishments, praise effort".”

Please explain how your bolded statement supports your previously stated philosophy.  I think you are much more “results oriented” than you think.

Also, you sound doubly unhinged with your bizarre ending rant.  [/quote]

Now, I am unhinged X 2.  I am trying to dumb this down so you understand it...and again, you have a mediocre talent, just admit it.

Praising a play that resulted in an out and the effort in the swing and the timing on the ball let's the kid know that it's better to get an out because the form is there, the power is there, and keep working those fundamentals and you are going to lift that line drive just 2 feet higher and drop a double down the line next time.  I say don't mention the blooper...because there is nothing to discuss...the kid knows they got on base, but it wasn't a solid hit, and it's not something they want to replicate.

You do realize you sound exactly like the a**hole parents that others are mentioning, right?  We can hear you now barking from the stands, haranguing your kid and others on the team.[/quote]

But you said we should praise the *effort*. That blooper still requires effort, does it not, both to hit the ball and to run to first.  But you say repeatedly you won’t praise *that* effort because… a college coach wouldn’t be impressed?

You are an extremely strange and angry person.  Develop some internal logical consistency in your purported beliefs before you rant at strangers on the internet.  [/quote]

I don't know how to simplify this more for you.  You are extremely dense.  You deal with mediocre talent and I guarantee you are someone screaming from the bleachers.    You are so worked up because this is all hitting too close to home.

No kid is jumping up-and-down ecstatic about their check-swinged blooper to RF.  The kid isn't happy about that "hit"...they don't want to talk about it...there is nothing to talk about.  I wouldn't focus in on that hit whatsoever, but rather mention his effort over the entire game.

You seem to want to talk about your kid's errors (just what every kid wants their parent to bring up) and every other thing that didn't go right in the game.  My reference to the college coach was to point out your glaring misunderstanding of on-field performance and effort.

Let us know generally where you live so we can keep our eye out for the jacka** screaming at their kid on the field.[/quote]

Perhaps I am dense but at least I understand what it looks (reads) like to be “so worked up” and… that person in this conversation is you, my friend.  I mean really, sorry I said the book is just your opinion Mike, but try to calm down.[/quote]

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