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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not for a pre-professional program.  Save the money for MCAT/LSAT training and tell your kid to stand out on campus at the state U.[/quote]

What if the state U is, say, one with an 80% admission rate. So ranked not highly at all? The in between option(s) was not one that DC liked (you know, like a 30-50% admit).[/quote]

Acceptance rate is just a measure of popularity. 30-50% admit rate doesn’t mean it’s a better school than one with 80% acceptance. [/quote]

That's not really the comparison though, is it?

It's the 30-50% vs. the selective school as compared to 80% vs. the selective school. [/quote]

Dp.  I don’t understand what you're saying. Pp is correct.  The acceptance rate reflects the quantity of applicants, not the quality. That’s a poor measure to use when comparing schools.  [/quote]

Actually, it's partly true.  But most State U with a 80% acceptance rate do have a group of really smart kids (especially if it's the best State U in that state).  However you will also have a significant portion of the kids who are simply on a different level.  For example: this kid got into a T20ish school.  So lets say 3.9+UW gpa, 1500+ SAT are likely on the resume.  However most state U with an 80% acceptance rate will have a very different demographic. 
Take Univ of Iowa (82% acceptance rate).  For those who did NOT submit SAT?ACT 31% have a 4.0, 27% have 3.75 and 3.99.  So 57% have a 3.75+ GPA.  
Back in 2019 their SAT range (25-75) was 1140-1330.  So yes, this kid will need to find the honors program and search for similar kids, but they will exist.  Just only 20% of the school will have 1400+.  However, there are 20K+ undergrads, not 5K.  There will still be very driven students---it's a state school many will be there because they are smart, it's debt free for them and it's all they can afford.

Agree. My daughter goes to our very large, well-regarded instate flagship. She likes it and I actually like that she has to be proactive and not getting her hand held (because it has been the last 18 years somewhat). But in the FB and other social media sites, I see that there are kids sleeping in class right in front of the professor. On summer orientation (parents went too, had separate seminars), I saw a few kids acting like it was HS and being truly obnoxious and interrupting the speakers. Just a few , but it made me think maybe the students in her second choice college (more expensive, private, pre-professional mostly) would have been more on point. But my kid is happy, doing well, we are not going into debt and I kept those observations to myself. Another parent on orientation sitting next to me had noticed the few obnoxious kids and said they probably wouldn’t make it through the first year. Hopefully they shape up or they’re wasting precious money.

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