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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If the presence of 800 LEOs ("good guys") isn't enough to deter gun crime, then we are truly living in a lawless time. Expecting "good guys" to bail us out each and every time is simply not realistic. Reducing the number of guns and making it harder to get them is what's needed. [/quote]

I disagree. 
Making it harder for law abiding citizens to own firearms will result in criminals being the ones with the weapons.  
Law abiding citizens should be free to defend themselves and their loved ones.  
After all, when seconds matter, the police are just minutes away.  
The solution is getting criminals off the streets.  Let's find out what the rap sheets are on these shooters. [/quote]

INCORRECT.   Every gun used by a criminal originally started out in the hands of a supposed "law abiding citizen."  Every single one.  That shows that there aren't enough controls on the supposed law-abiders.  There are far too many people who can legally purchase guns skirting laws to funnel them to criminals, there are far too many irresponsible law abiding criminals who fail to secure their guns, who let friends and relatives with criminal records or criminal intent get guns through them and so on.  The more checks, balances and controls in place, the harder it will be for criminals to get guns.  [/quote]

How are laws going to make it harder for criminals to get guns?

The issue: CRIMINALS DON’T ABIDE BY LAWS.

We have laws against murder, rape, kidnapping, theft, drunk driving: those crimes still happen EVERY DAY.

Laws don’t change criminal behavior; laws punish criminals who commit crimes.

I don’t rape people, steal, kill, etc, because I have no desire to do those things. I am not sitting at home thinking: “hmmmm, boy oh boy, I sure would like to go rape and murder some people. But gosh darn it! Those laws say I can’t! So now I can’t! Curse those laws from keeping me from doing evil! Oh well, guess I will go check out my tomato plants in the garden, instead.”

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