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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think its a good idea for kids to take this many APs, anyhow. If they are really college-level classes, albeit spread over 2 semesters, that's a lot of work. I--like most people--took 4 college level classes per semester in college, and was not juggling 2 or 3 OTHER classes that had homework, papers, tests, etc. I never took higher level math, a lab science, reading and paper-heavy English and social science, and a language in the same semester. [/quote]
This is LITERALLY OP’s point.

The arms race for most AP and IB courses is exhausting, but if you don’t compete with your peers, you are no longer “most rigorous path”.

Meanwhile over at HB, kids don’t have to kill themselves because their peers simply can’t load up and escalate the AP course load. 
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No I'm saying I never took higher level math + a lab science + reading and paper-heavy English + a social science + a language in the same semester [u]in college[/u] and I think it's kind of crazy that kids would do AP-level classes for all of those plus 2 or 3 other classes. For what? Read the college boards on Reddit, many of the kids doing this are miserable and the chances of getting in a top college are basically a crapshoot anyhow. Let them do a couple AP classes a year if they need/want the challenge but this loading up just to get their GPA up another tenth of a point or to go from "more rigorous" to "most rigorous" is crazy.

--mom of an H-b 11th grader and a current college student [/quote]
Look, if you expect a kid who takes 2-3 APs to be compared equally to a kid that has taken 10-12, you are delusional.  The kid taking the 10-12 APs either has higher aptitude or stronger work ethic (likely both) than the other kid.  If you want to get into a t-20 school, you're going to have to suck it up and play the game.  If t-20 isn't your goal, then you can relax a bit and not take such a demanding course load.  It is all about choices.  Don't be mad at the ambitious kids.  FYI - the ambitious kids at ANY of the APS high schools do just fine.  I don't really believe that any APS individual school gives a measurable advantage as far as I've seen.[/quote]
The point is the ambitious kids at HB don’t have take the boatload of AP because they don’t have peers trying to. So not an advantage for admission per se, but they get same opportunities with less effort. [/quote]

[b]Who are you talking to at HB?[/b] I have a senior there now and there is plenty of pressure for kids to take a boatload of AP classes. Most of my child's friends and academic peers will have taken 11-14 AP classes by the time they graduate. Is that not a big enough boatload for you to consider them peers to kids at other schools? [/quote]

This person isn't talking to anyone. They just have a beef about HB.[/quote]

OP has a point though. The pressure to be a “top” student at WL is a lot higher than at HB, simply by the fact there are far fewer AP (and no IB) classes which means there is no advanced class arms race. Look at the PP, there are HB kids taking 6 APs, out of 14; you don’t think there are WL kids doing 6 AP/IB for much longer since they have like 40 advanced classes to mix and match. [/quote]

What you are really saying is that kids at WL have an unfair disadvantage. This has nothing to do with HB. [/quote]

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