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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Contrary to popular belief, most internationals at selective colleges seek need-based aid. The majority of selective private schools (SLACs top 40, privates top 60) meet full need for internationals if admitted. [/quote] Beyond the top 20 private universities with their miniscule acceptance rates, of those ranked between 20 and 60, the only privates that promise to meet full need for admitted internationals (and are also need aware) are Tufts, Brandeis, U Rochester, and U Miami.[/quote] Cite? Can also think of many SLACs that do this. Meanwhile, whether they promise to meet need for “all,” once accepted, or actually do so only for “most” makes little difference for purposes of why so many internationals (most of whom need aid) are applying.[/quote] I walked through a US news list and checked myself. Caveat, it was not the 2023 ranking and it was a cursory website look. Schools in the top 60 that promise to meet full financial need for admitted internationals (may be need aware) top 20s: Princeton MIT Stanford Yale Harvard UChicago JohnsHopkins UPenn Caltech Duke Northwestern Dartmouth Brown Rice Cornell Columbia beyond top 20: Tufts URochester Brandeis UMiami Private universities in the top 60-ish that [i]do not[/i] promise to meet full financial need for admitted internationals (whether they offer any need-based financial aid to internationals at all, or not): Vanderbilt WashU NotreDame Emory Georgetown CMU NYU USC WakeForest BostonCollege BostonUniversity Tulane CaseWestern Lehigh RPI Villanova Northeastern Pepperdine SantaClaraU Syracuse And of course the public top 60s do not offer need-based aid to internationals: UCLA UCBerkeley UMichigan UVA UF UNC UCSB UCI UCSD UWisconsin UTAustin UCD UIUC W&M GeorgiaTech UGA OhioState Purdue FSU UMD Rutgers UWashington VT UMN Pitt[/quote] Again, this is a red herring. The real issue is the number of international students admitted because they are full pay, which occurs at all the selective schools, even those that are need blind for domestic students.[/quote] Agree. I was simply responding to the PP who believes that most top 60 privates promise to meet full financial need for admitted internationals.[/quote]
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