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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Are there any good schools left that are actually fun and aren’t relentlessly grim? By “fun,” I don’t mean just pure parties (though that’s part of it). I also mean really engaging intellectual stimulation, the ability to actually have debates as opposed to heavily censored speech, parties that don’t require signed releases at the door, dorms that aren’t as quiet as crypts, students that can hear an opinion they don’t like without having tantrums, and a diversity of smart quirky kids with widely varied interests, not just armies of ruthless Tracy Flicks. In other words, speaking as someone who went to Stanford back when it was actually fun, [i]not[/i] this:

https://stanforddaily.com/2022/10/24/inside-stanfords-war-on-fun-tensions-mount-over-universitys-handling-of-social-life/

My kid is in 9th grade and although an excellent student in a hard school, does not have any interest in the hoops required for Stanford admission now (and I fully support that; Stanford is insufferable now from everything I hear). By the same token, the Ivies are out. But I would love my kid to find a place that is fun the way that college used to be fun: yes, hard work, yes challenging academics, but also just plain fun. Does that exist any more or has that concept for college been totally destroyed?[/quote]

Most of the attributes you want to avoid are significantly more common at colleges in the Northeast & California. But this being DCUM, that’s about all anybody is recommending, because they are clueless about the full range of options across the country. [/quote]

Do you have any flyover state recommendations?[/quote]

The OP seems to want schools where people are just living their lives with what they have, not where people feel like they in reality show competition to see who can be the most spoiled show-offy striver.

I’d start at about Purdue & work west…Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. These are schools people on the coasts usually scoff at, but that’s sort of the point, isn’t it? To get away from the sorts of fads & obsessions that have ruined so many of the super-popular colleges.

Think about who is confident & content to go to places like this, & then think about the vane, insecure  students who just HAVE to go to NYU or Brown or USC or else their world will burst.[/quote]

And then think about the vast number of stereotypes you've infused into your accounts when it is impossible that you have direct lived experience with all the schools mentioned--not to mention all the students at them.[/quote]

There’s a game idiots like you play: if somebody gives a generality, you say you want specifics. If somebody gives specifics, you say they are just anecdotes. And the pathetic thing is you think you win.

I gave my views after having lived, studied, & taught all over the country & in several foreign countries. If you have a view, why don’t you state it, instead of sitting on the sidelines acting smug.

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