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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But if you’re wondering why competitive candidates are TO at all, it’s because a 33 has been deemed to be unacceptable - especially at places like Wash U or Vanderbilt where nearly half of the incoming class did not submit a score last year. And w/that score, together, with a strong application and profile, you now have better odds going test optional than you do submitting. Why is any of this so hard to understand? Now this doesn’t support a 3.7uw applying TO unless there’s something else tremendous in the kid’s profile….but a 3.85-3.95 - at a competitive private? Sure, as a reach. Especially when things are so uncertain kids are applying to 20-30 schools.[/quote] I think this is the really messed up part of TO. 33 should be competitive for those schools and because of TO it's not and causes great anguish for kids on deciding whether to submit it or not. They should be proud of that score.[/quote] But it’s not! That’s the whole point. The data shows that Vanderbilt (and certain others) will not admit you if you submit that 33. You have a much better shot of admission if you don’t submit a 33 assuming the rest of the application is strong.[/quote] You just don’t know that without knowing the demographics of kids who are accepted test optional. And no school releases that.[/quote] I know the kids from our school accepted test optional at T20 schools so have made my assumptions. Small sample size I know. [/quote] What school?[/quote]
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