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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:

Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”

Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”

Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”

Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”[/quote]

You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years? [/quote]

Are you saying an American whose great grandparents were born in Ireland and who says they are Irish is actually ethnically Irish?

African-Americans are racially different. They have African genes. I doubt they claim to be ethnically African though. [/quote]

DP this whole discussion is silly. Americans who say they are Irish mean it in the sense of ancestry. They have Irish ancestry. They are not saying they have Irish citizenship or that they were born and raised in Ireland. They know they are American.

Where I grew up in the midwest, people would say "I'm half Irish, half German." Or "I'm a quarter Polish, and 3/4 Czech."  Or "I'm Lithuanian." And they all meant that this is where their immigrant ancestors came from. And yes, in Ireland people roll their eyes over there at Americans use of the phrase, in part because they don't know it's just shorthand for Americans of European descent to talk about their ancestry. Not only those of Irish heritage. Americans are obsessed with their ancestry in ways Europeans tend not to be. Not just those with Irish ancestors.

And anyway, when a popular US president whose ancestors came from Ireland is in office, the Irish go nuts over that and claim him as a long lost son. LOL

At least there are no more signs in the US that "no Irish need apply." There's your reason for whatever clannishness you see among those of Irish (Catholic) descent in the US. You make a group of people "others" and they'll stick together.

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