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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This was the #1 rule I’ve told my kids when they went off to college, don’t just trust what the doctor says.

Listen and discern if it makes sense, do your own research, get a 2nd opinion.

They’ve both learned that doctors are just mediocre humans doing the best they can which is mediocre.

Also, don’t just go to anyone, get recommendations, look at their track record, interview them, don’t worry about their feelings.[/quote]

Doctors are not mediocre humans. They are highly educated, often overworked and underpaid, doing the best they can. Joe the plumber and all the other high school dropouts supporting Trump and the likes are mediocre humans. 50% of this country is mediocre at best, but doctors are not in that half.
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Classist, and some magical thinking. Doctors, being people, have a range of human traits, including mediocrity. You're not magical. If half the country is mediocre, so are half the doctors (which tracks, IME)[/quote]

That would be true if doctors were selected at random from the whole population. Are you not aware that there is an admissions process to even into med school?[/quote]

Med school acceptance means you test well, and you can pay for a college education (and you probably do stimulant drugs). I know a lot of people who bought a college education and should ask for a refund because they clearly didn't learn much. It doesn't make you magically smarter than a plumber; that whole line of thinking is classist. [/quote]

No one is saying that doctors are smarter than plumbers. Hell, I'd say plumbers are far smarter since they can start working debt free at 21, instead of starting at 30 with a quarter million dollars in debt. Better hours, less stress, you don't have to deal with other people...
The point is that you wouldn't ask a doctor to fix your toilet and you wouldn't ask your plumber for medical advice. Doctors are trained in medicine. If you don't think they learn anything in medical school, don't use their services. [/quote]

PP Probablyadoc was the one who made the comparison, so I used it. If I hired a plumber to unclog my toilet, and he claimed the problem was that my showerhead needs upgrading, I'd be equally upset. If I told him my sink drains slowly and he suggested I put in a bidet, I'd be frustrated and feel like he wasn't listening. If I asked her to install a new sink, and she forgot the p-trap and connected the hot and cold backwards, I'd want those errors acknowledged and corrected, and I doubt anyone on this board would disagree. If I got billed thousands for a $2 part, I'd be furious. If this were my regular experience with plumbers, I'd lose trust in them too.

I shared my experience that some doctors are pretty shite at their job, rush, don't really listen, bring major attitude if you try to have input into your own care, and charge out the @ss for their "expertise", and got a whole lot of blowback, including people trying to gaslight and diagnonsense on a chat forum, and make excuses for how doctors are overworked/underpaid in some way that should excuse their incompetence. I disagree. Doctors claim an elevated status that doesn't necessarily come with performance to justify it. The solution so many seem willing to offer, "don't use their services", sounds lovely. Wish I could avoid them forever, plumbers and doctors alike! But bodies break down, just like pipes clog, and these services should be functional when called upon. [/quote]

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