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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When you have to come back to horribly inferior food quality, obscene prices for everything and sooooooo much crime.  It’s amazing when you can travel to a major city in the world and see ZERO gun deaths for literally days and weeks on end.  There’s better public infrastructure that embarrasses the U.S., things are a lot more walkable, healthcare is way more afford, and things just work.  Man, it gets harder and harder to return after every trip abroad.  The only thing worth retuning for are the salaries and that’s about it. [/quote]

I agree with you on healthcare, college, infrastructure and gun safety…the prices doesn’t really make sense.  Maybe Thailand, Malaysia are what you are referring?  I guess prices are low and while it’s not national healthcare…out of pocket and insurance is very low.

Europe, clearly you pay through the nose for gas, groceries, booze, etc…but that does fund the other social benefits.[/quote]

Even in Japan, dining out is cheap for the Japanese earning Japanese yen.  We literally stayed at our friend’s house there and talked about it.  Yes, sure, you can spend a lot on elite dining in Tokyo, but there are soooooooooo many cheap to middle level options fir dining that are out of this world and way more affordable even by Japanese standards.  And no tipping.  The food quality at the grocery stores in all of those countries is superior, which is inexcusable given that the U.S. has vastly more room to grow food than an island nation like Japan. The quality of fruits in Thailand blows anything out of the water in the U.S., and you can buy like 2 kg of oranges for about $3, which is cheap even by Thai standards.

We also needed an ER visit in Thailand for a broken wrist. The wait time was less than 30 minutes.  X-rays, cast, medication and a follow up visit: grand total of $314.  And that was completely out of pocket with zero insurance.  So, soooooo much better than getting bankrupted for HC in the US even when you have insurance. [/quote]

Yes, but you are mixing and matching.  I get that Thailand is cheap, but the infrastructure is not the same as SK, Japan or Singapore.

I have no idea on out of pocket healthcare in SK or Japan or Singapore.  Is it cheap?

You have to admit though that people are fundamentally unhappy about something in the Asian systems when it comes to children.  [b]Birthrates are nonexistent[/b] and women are always complaining about the inequality they face.[/quote]

The fertility rate gap vanishes if you adjust for bastard rate for the most part

Having kids out of wedlock is very taboo in Asia

American tfr is 1.6/1.7 but if it had Asian levels of illegitimacy, it would crash down to 1.2/1.3 - similar to Japan 
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Ok, except you are claiming that life is so great in Asian countries.  If that was the case, wouldn’t their birth rates be much higher?

It’s fine as a visitor, but actually being a native is much different.  Wages are so low in Japan that a medical professional in Japan can make more as a waitress/waiter in Australia.

Life is so stressful in SK that parents are suing the proctor of an 11th grade exam for ending an 8 hour test 1 minute early.  That test basically determines your life and kids starting in 8th grade go to normal school followed by 8 hours of cram school.

[b]I mean the moral of your story is get rich in the US and then move.  [/b]I get it.[/quote]
My spouse is a dual citizen, and we are thinking exactly this.[/quote]

Please leave sooner rather than later and absolutely renounce your US citizenship for yourself and your children.  This way you can't come running back to to US safety when whatever county you move to is invaded by Russia.[/quote]
eh.. Russia  compromised a POTUS (Trump) and many of our country's leaders (Graham).

But, I guess you agree that Russia is trying to invade other countries, and Putin is a dictator. Makes you wonder why Trump likes Putin so much.

Oh, and I don't have to renounce my citizenship. There's this great thing called "dual citizenship".  My kids also have dual citizenship.

Do you really think your kids having shooter drills and lockdowns is a normal part of childhood? I guess it is now in the US.  Sad that we've normalized this.[/quote]

You are free to renounce your US Citizenship and move back to your other country.  Dual citizenship does not mean that you are forced to keep citizenship in a country you hate.

I would, bet, however that you only express your loathing and disgust with the US on an anonymous chat room.  Coward.  [/quote]

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