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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DP here. This is a good article.
For those of you commenting without reading the article, I highly recommend you read it first. The reporter mentions multiple recent studies that all show the same thing - test scores are more predictive of future college success than high school grades. 
Most college admissions officials agree that test scores should be used as one factor towards admissions but they are scared of political backlash if they bring test scores back. [/quote]

Yes, gpa is generally more predictive than test scores alone but not as predictive as gpa plus test scores.  Further, gpa has become less and less predictive as grades have become inflated.   Source: UC system and Purdue research.[/quote]

My annoyance is that my DD studied hard and did really well on the SAT - similar to her sisters that got into top 20 schools. But, we went TO b/c the scores that are now reported are much higher as no one is reporting. We agonized over this decision. She lost a valuable side to her application.  And, I think every year scores will continue to go up as those on the 25-50% will no longer report.  Just a horrible decision.  [/quote]
Hard to guess why one wouldn't submit a strong score, even if it's on the low end for the school. Sorry to be critical of this decision-making, but personally, I think that's a mistake. Submit and then let the chips fall, rather than let the college assume the score was worse.[/quote]
Because the average scores are so high now that you need a near perfect score to submit.

Of course we cannot know for sure, but TO colleges say they do not assume the scores were worse if not submitted.   Thats what makes TO so wrong to me, it’s a guessing game now.  A game that most SES and URM will not know how to play and this TO ends up hurting them rather than helping.  [/quote]
I agree that the PP probably received advice not to submit; I'm just saying I think that was bad advice. And I agree completely that URMs and low SES get hurt by test optional for the same reason - bad advice not to take tests and submit the scores.

While most TO colleges may say they do not assume scores were worse if not submitted, it is a logical assumption. It's hard to see how they don't make such an assumption here in 2024.[/quote]

Yep, the article said applicants who didn’t submit scores were on average similar to applicants with scores around the 25th percentile as far as college academic performance. So won’t necessarily assume a bottom of the barrel score, but won’t assume any higher than 25th centile.[/quote]

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