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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't believe government forcing women to have babies.[/quote]

i don't either, but i also wish that we could get to a place in our culture so that women who are accidentally pregnant are encouraged to have the baby and place it for adoption.  it seems to me that now there is more stigma attached to carrying a child to term than having an abortion (seriously, there are women on here who talk proudly about how many abortions they have had).  there are women who are cavalier about pregnancy and i find that sickening.  I realize this is my world view and I'm not trying to impose it on anyone else.

[/quote]Are you saying adoption as a contraceptive method? No worry about a 'surprise' because you can leave it in the hospital?
[b]Can we not just increase womens rights, so surprise pregnancies actually mean that the man is on the hook for child support, and that the mother gets paid maternity leave, and can get child care subsidies and wic if she needs?[/b]

Baby scoop era is over and you cannot treat women like that anymore[/quote]

Maybe, and i know i won't articulate this well, but i sometimes think that women have dug a pretty deep hole regarding holding men responsible by making abortion a women's only issue and decision.  if the putative father doesn't have a right to a say in whether the woman has an abortion, how can we then say he HAS to be responsible if she decides to go on with the pregnancy.  i promise i'm not being glib -- i really do wrestle with this issue because i think fathers SHOULD be required to be responsible.

as to the leaving babies in the hospital, i'm not advocating that women MUST continue with a pregnancy and place the baby for adoption, but rather that more of the 3/4 of the 1.3 million women i 2008 who had abortions in whole or in part because having a child would interfere with life, for example, would opt to continue with the pregnancy and place the child for adoption.  that we could get over the notion that an unexpected pregnancy is a death sentence and a life ender and that more women would become accident surrogates, in an odd way,  rather than choose abortion.  may sound backwards and heinous, but that's how i feel.
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