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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My 42 yo husband is a walking encyclopedia of rap from the 80's till now.   He has never disrespected me or any other woman I know.  Has never done drugs, hasn't even smoked anything, doesn't own a gun.  Can't pin one typically stereotype related to rap music to him.

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That’s nice dear.

I am certain teens from impoverished DC neighborhoods view violent, misogynistic rap music through precisely the same lens as your WASPy suburban, college graduate husband.

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LOL Exactly. People really can't think outside of their own experience.

For most suburban kids, music CAN be entertainment that is separate from their reality. Assuming they have the maturity and cognitive ability to separate the two. But all it takes is one adverse childhood event and suddenly the lines get blurred, as the child seeks approval and validation from people who copy and paste street culture from the music and media they consume and propel that out into our suburban communities, and boom: You have an explosion of teenage drug users, dealers and carjackers, who follow the tune of the pied-piper of drill and local DMV rappers.

This stuff is all connected. You can't, or rather shouldn't, ignore it.[/quote]

Context is everything. I sincerely doubt that OP's child fits into the category of 'teens from impoverished DC neighborhoods'. Highly doubtful there is anyone here that fits that description.

As far as I can tell, there is no correlation between music that is consumed, and drug use/violence, regardless of where one lives. As someone that did in fact grow up in a rough neighborhood (not in DC), and had friends that grew up under similar circumstances, it wasn't music choice that set apart those that made the right and wrong choices. We all pretty much listened to the same stuff. [/quote]

I will counter your lived experience with mine:

A relative lived in an apartment community in Silver Spring and his parents had gone through a nasty split when he was in about 5th grade. This led to resent and anger issues as he blamed himself for the split and was put in the middle of spats between his mother and father. Then, as he struggled with the emotional turmoil of his parents split, he was desperate for friends and connection, so he sought the attention and friendship of kids in middle school who weren't really nice. They acted like his friends but then mocked him behind his back and betrayed. This led to more anger and trust issues. This crowd listened to trap music, smoked and sold weed and basically mimicked the lifestyle, values, language and morals of NBA Youngboy, who became my relative's idol. Things got really bad and he ended up getting into beefs with other boys in these circles to the point where he got a ghost gun to defend himself.

So yeah. You might say for you and your friends that the music didn't lead to violence or lifestyle changes, but that's not the lived experience of everyone else. This music IS contributing to juvenile crime spree we're seeing. You can deny it if you want, but it's true.[/quote]

Listen grannie, there are many people who listen to this music and who do not live violent lifestyles. This type of music has been around for 30+ years. At least that is how long I've listened to it. And NOW it's contributing to "crime sprees in DC"? I've heard it all now.[/quote]

I’m not sure why you need to use grannie like an insult.  You’re not 12:years old.

. Drill rap, or “kill” rap, has been around for about 10- 20 years.  NYC Mayor got involved with the subject after some gang killings in Brooklyn and said he was concerned about “violent people who are using drill rapping to post who they killed, and then antagonize the people who they are going to kill”.

Some of the drill rappers who were murdered in the past couple years in NYC were Pop Smoke, Nas Fisher, Tahiay Dobson, Jayquan McKinley, and Bleezy DOD.  All in their teens and twenties.

Drill rap is being called ‘too authentic’, when it’s talking about real names, real lives, real people who are being affected by not just the music, but what’s happening outside and in the streets.”  Not to mention innocent people caught in the crossfire.

No one should support this type of rap. Your child will probably be fine.  Someone else’s child might not be.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/feb/18/eric-adams-drill-rap-music-gun-violence[/quote]

I don't make decisions for other parents' and their children. I make them for mine. And yes, mine will be fine. And this is not the hill I"m dying on. They'll listen to it anyway and I'd rather know what they're listening to so we can have the appropriate discussions about it.

Parents have been trying to censor teen music since forever. I grew up in the time when the labeling started and remember the hullabaloo over 2LiveCrew and their court cases, among other things. It didn't work then. It won't work now.

But go ahead and get all worked up about it if you must. Grannie was meant to be an insult b/c you sound like the Tipper Gore's and old ladies of my day who are trying the same sh-- lots of you are on here. I get you don't like it. But it's accurate. [/quote]

Different poster.     2livecrew?    Please. That was all about sex.  Big deal.

The specific rap that’s mentioned is talking about murders they committed or murders they will commit and they are naming the rappers on the kill list.

I saw a documentary on drill rappers murdering each other in London. More than a third of gang murders involved a drill rapper or drill music videos were related to the murders. Around 2018 and there were dozens of them.

So while your kid is just fine there are young people who are hurt or murdered related to this style of rap and a few other genres of rap.  I doubt you could name three drill rappers so you don’t know what you’re talking about.   [/quote]

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