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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This. They got straight As in high school. Why would you expect them to be getting Bs and Cs in college?[/quote] Well, everyone who is a starting quarterback in HS is a good athlete but 95% of them will not make the college football roster. College should be the same way.[/quote] 95% of great students don't get into Yale. Yale knows that grad schools and employers care about GPAs and they aren't about to hamstring their own students. People have said the hardest part is getting in for decades now and it's still true. [/quote] If these students are so excellent, they should be able to handle coursework that challenges *them.* Not just coursework that would be challenging to an average hs graduate, but something that actually raises the bar a bit instead of giving out a participation trophy.[/quote] How do you know they aren't? Have you seen Yale coursework and work product that indicates that it isn't challenging and that the grades aren't earned? Why does it surprise you that the best students in high school are still great students in college?[/quote] Because if only 20% of your students are getting a 'B' or lower, your class is too easy.[/quote] Why? Calc 1 has specific material that a student needs to learn. If everyone learns it at the 85%+ then they deserve and A or B. Same for many even higher STEM courses. There's material to learn, and if a student mastered it they deserve a good grade. That's the entire purpose of learning. Not to give tests so ridiculous that have nothing to do with the material taught in class or labs or discussion sections or on HW/Quizes so that the average is a 30%. So if you take 5% of the top HS students who apply, grant them admission. Then you are not dealing with "average students" . You are dealing with kids who have likely been at the top, working their asses off to excel for 12+ years. Do you expect them to just stop being engaged, smart, studious kids now they are at college? The difference is they are now surrounded largely by other students just like them. [/quote]
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