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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A lot of you are making valid points about people whining and criticising. Fair enough. But I go back to OP’s original point “It BAFFLES me that any time you say anything about America is sub par, Americans FREAK OUT.”

The key word is ANYTHING. If I say I think American coffee is horrible, I guarantee there will be posters telling me to go back to my own country and that there are millions of people clustered at the border who are desperate to come so American coffee must be great (okay, I made the last bit up but you get my point). [/quote]

Just to use your own example - if you were French and I (an American) was visiting France and told you how horrible the French coffee is, what would your reaction be?  Insert any country, btw.  The point is, you DO NOT go to someone else's country and proceed to tell them how bad it is, even if you're just talking about the coffee.  This should be obvious, btw.   :roll: [/quote]

Honestly, if I was back in Australia and you were an expat living there and said you hated the coffee, the college system, mandatory voting, vegemite or whatever, I might ask you about it or engage in robust debate but why would I be insulted? No place is perfect and everyone has different tastes and predilections.  Where does this extreme sensitivity to criticism come from?

I do get that relentless whining or endless comparisons are tedious/annoying, and that tone and delivery matter, but that’s not what this post was originally about.

Are expats who have lived here a long time allowed to voice the same criticisms that everyone else does on DCUM or is that just seem as ingratitude for the privilege of living in the US?

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Honestly - if you're living here, enjoying all that the US has to offer, but are not a citizen, then you should keep your criticisms to yourself or at the very least, only discuss among your fellow expats.  Pretty sure Australians, Brits, French, etc. would be mightily pi$$ed off if American expats constantly whined and moaned over all the things lacking in those countries.[/quote]

Something something 'muh freedoms', 'snowflakes', and 'safe spaces'.[/quote]

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