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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honestly at this point who cares. We did the best we could under a unique and heretofore inexperienced event. This is for scientists to be studying to plan for future pandemics. Getting angry now is ridiculous. [/quote]

The problem is we weren’t allowed to ask questions and dissenting views were discouraged. Anytime you’re not allowed to ask questions or push back on something you should be concerned. The climate at the time didn’t allow questioning of precautions. [/quote]

Because it was an EMERGENCY situation.
Having known several people who died or spent months in the hospital with Covid it was not something most of us wanted to just take our chances with.

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Questions and dissent are most important during an emergency. No you don’t get to memory hole this. [/quote]

What do you think should happen today?  Are you advocating for anything in particular?[/quote]

I think laws should be passed that require schools to remain open. Public health authories should be sent to school to understand risks and benefits. Strong protection of 1A rights in the pending Supreme Court case. Fixing the learning loss is going to be a long term project but the new understanding of the importance of phonics is a great step. We need to do the same for math. [/quote]

I agree with this. What happened in DC public schools and many other schools needs to be addressed. The idea that publicly funded public schools can just close for an entire school year, is insane.

I think we need rules in place linking prolonged school closures with teacher furloughs. You want to keep the schools closed for a year or more? Okay, then we need to furlough the staff and the money saved should be sent to families as a tax rebate that can be used toward private school, tutoring, etc. [/quote]

DP. I don't know if I agree with that, but we need an urgent and ongoing evaluation of where students stand now and each year going forward to inform future decisions. My primary concern with the way public schools handled COVID is not necessarily that decision-makers were trying to protect the health, particularly the health of adults who would be in school buildings, but how little consideration has been given to the consequences of that protection for students. If unprecedented measures were needed to protect life, why weren't unprecedented options for flexibility or remediation considered (even for a fleeting second) to mitigate harm to children? With the seasonality we have seen, school in the summers and closures around the winter holidays would have mitigated risk and allowed some normalcy, yet that was never on the table. [/quote]

You want to spend time punishing for past buy what do you want to do for kids on school now?  The kids in school on 2023, 2024, at this moment in time, how do you want to serve them? Scoring political points by litigating the past won't.[/quote]

I don't want to punish anyone. But I will point out that "experts" who lobbied for closed schools offered assurances that kids would be just fine when schools reopened, and they were wrong. I don't even have kids in primary education anymore, but it is clear that what we are doing isn't working, and no one is offering any solutions. All I hear is blame for parents and students. I want to hear ideas for solving these problems that aren't just business as usual.[/quote]

Yes, parents are ultimately responsible for their kids. Surprised you are now in favor of a nanny state.

No one is going to accept a solution where we defenestrate the teachers who were part of the lockdown during COVID so don't spend precious  time waiting for that. We will also not get rid of the concept of public schools. So with that out of the way what are your solutions?[/quote]

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