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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honestly, all of this redshirting everywhere has gotten out of hand. It’s crazy to me that OP has zero concerns about kindergarten readiness but is considering holding her daughter back since she feels as though sending her on time as one of the youngest may, at some future point, make her have some unknown discomfort or adversity not otherwise specified, and she’d rather put her at an advantage over the other children as the oldest. That is, in my opinion, quite weak-sauce and we’ve lost sight of accommodating true outlier kids who are not ready and are instead accommodating anxious parents trying to game-ify their not-struggling children’s successes over others. The fact that OP even feels like she has an existential decision to make is silly to me. The default should be send on time unless there is a compelling reason not to. I’m not seeing one here. [/quote]

OP here. It is out of hand, but partially so because there are no uniform dates across the country.[b] I don’t want my child going to college at 17 with kids who have just turned 19 or are about to[/b]. There’s a big difference. I also know what’s expected of kids in kindergarten now and I just don’t feel it’s developmentally appropriate for a 4 year old. 2/3 of the kids in her class would be turning 6 by March. I don’t care about putting her at an advantage as much as I don’t want her to be at disadvantage. I never said it’s an existential decision, but this is a parenting forum. If we can talk about what to serve at a birthday party I can certainly ask other parents for their experiences on their daughters being the very youngest vs close to the oldest of their grade.

Fwiw I have a March birthday and was on the older side of my grade. In hindsight many of the girls I knew with late fall birthdays were immature and really could not keep up socially. But I was also fairly tall until middle school and that was a little awkward for me. I’m average build- not a tiny petite person and doubt my daughter will be either, so that is also a consideration, however asinine you may find it.[/quote]

It is YOUR JOB AS A PARENT to prepare her for this!  Are you saying you are not up for the task? or that you are a crap parent who will fail in this regard?  
 
Also, in Europe [b]4 year olds are expected to read[/b], which is K/1st here, so ‘developmentally appropriate’ is a sliding scale.

It sounds like you’ve already made up your mind, OP.  So, why ask on this forum if you are going to get so defensive?  Just hold her back and deal with he consequences of doing that.  It’s not my kid, so I don’t really care.  I didn’t hold mine back - she’s in 8th grade and young - just turned 13.  She’s thriving!  I’ve always been on top of it with being a sounding board for the social scene and she’s navigated this quite well.  Now I’m shifting my focus to being a sounding board for the dating/college scene.  My role is support, advice, and guidance - DD calls the shots.  So far, I’ve been impressed with her choices.  Regardless of their relative age in the class, you have to guide them to make good decisions - it is your job![/quote]

Not in Finland (part of Europe...)  7 years is the norm there.   
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/10/the-joyful-illiterate-kindergartners-of-finland/408325/?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Also in Germany kids learn reading later as well.  https://www.parentmap.com/article/kindergarten-america-germany

I think OP you can do what you think is best for your daughter - she'll probably be fine either way but I think it is reasonable to think that today's US kindergarten is not developmentally appropriate for a 4 year old and ok to wait until your daughter is five.   My daughter has a May birthday so I have no skin in this game.  [/quote]

This isn't necessarily best and their school curriculum is very different than ours.

Of course K is developmentally appropriate for a 5 year old or a child just turning 5.  Saying it is not developmentally appropriate makes no sense.

Finland's having issues with their school system.  https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/politics/22366-slide-in-finland-s-education-level-sparks-concerns-among-lawmakers.html[/quote]]

your article on Finland has absolutely nothing to do with when kids start school.    There is evidence that 4 year old in very academic programs do worse in the long run than in play based programs.  So yes depending on what the K is like it can be developmentally inappropriate.    https://www.edsurge.com/news/2020-02-04-play-is-disappearing-from-kindergarten-it-s-hurting-kids

The kindergarten of today is not the kindergarten I attended way back when  and the changes in general are not good for kids.  https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2332858415616358

I would not rush to have my kid sitting at a desk all day if the alternative was a strong play based  preschool program.      (admittedly financial constraints may compel that choice) [/quote]

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