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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was an atheist who lost faith, and then found faith, after many years.

I think faith or lack of faith can ebb and flow. [/quote]

I think so, too.  [/quote]

I disagree.

[b]Once you look objectively and see there is no evidence for god (by the definitions of god most used) there really is no ebb or flow.[/b]

It's actually wonderful, liberating, and permanent - at least until some evidence arises.[/quote]

There was definitely ebb and flow in my case too, so that makes three of us on this thread.[/quote]

What evidence did you find that made you “ebb and flow” back to faith?

Forgive my presumption, but I assume you mean you fought between your acknowledgment that there is insufficient evidence and some other emotion?  Is that accurate?

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This is the PP you responded to. People change. I'm not sure why you feel the need to break this down to digest it? You seem rigid, not rational.[/quote]

[b]It’s irrational to want to know what your reasoning was?[/b]

If you don’t want to say, that’s fine that’s your prerogative. But please don’t pretend that it’s not a perfectly logical question.  If you don’t answer it, people will make their own assumption as to why.

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Your approach to faith is paradoxical. You're demanding the recipe for faith, but there isn't one. A few years ago I was 100% convinced there was no God. To my surprise my faith has grown, but not as a result of my own efforts. [/quote]

That’s preposterous not demanding any recipe for faith. I am asking you what evidence convinced you back. At this point you’re taking the thread off topic so let’s just drop it since you clearly are not going to say which makes me think your post is not genuine.[/quote]

How would you describe color to a blind person?[/quote]

The same way you would describe color to a person with perfect vision.

Now, what evidence convinced you back from being an atheist?[/quote]

DP. Go ahead, describe "red" to us DCUMers. We'll wait. [/quote]

You made the allegory as a method of avoiding answering the question of what convinced you to go back.

You added the variable of "a blind person" as an insult insinuating that atheists just can't see what you can. You asked the question and it was answered, pointing out the allegory was faulty.

Your "go ahead" challenge is now your feeble attempt to continue avoiding the question of what evidence convinced you to go back.  You owned yourself with that silly allegory and admitted that there was no evidence, and no reason.  That's fine - that's 100% your prerogative - but please don't insult intelligent people here by saying we don't see it because we are blind.[/quote]

I'm the "describe red" poster and not the pp you're having your childish feud with. I do actually think it's a good allegory, though--describing faith is at least as hard as describing colors. And that's probably why you declined to describe red--pp's point is made.[/quote]

I agree it’s a good comparison. I can’t “see” what believers can. It’s just all irrational nonsense to me. [/quote]

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