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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Biden is at 37% in the polls. The electoral college map looks horrible for Biden. Trump is done. Have you heard him speak in the past few months? He does not even know what day it is.[/quote]

Three pages and this seems to be the only comment on Biden's diminished mental capacity. Anyone with the misfortune of having a parent in this situation knows this only gets worse. While he is sometimes mentally sharp, he is just as likely to be incoherent and shuffling about like an old man. Why are Democrats afraid to state the obvious. No chance he can serve another full term? Bring on Newsome or someone else.[/quote]

I would counter by asking why Republicans are afraid to acknowledge that Trump has in the past and is currently also showing signs of cognitive decline. There are tons of recent examples of him talking on camera and being incoherent or confused about where he is. Perhaps you haven't seen them if you only follow Fox or Newsmax, but I can assure you that they are real. Granted, Trump doesn't look as frail as Biden (probably because fatter old people just don't look as frail as thinner old people), but given that both are bound to have some defects due to age, most sane people are going to go with the guy who has more experience (Biden is probably the most experienced president we've ever had)--and who isn't actively undermining the constitution. [/quote]

Easy, there! I am not making a case for Trump. I agree he is also in decline. You are throwing Fox News, fat people and everything else as a response. The point I am making is that no one is addressing the elephant in the room and that is that Biden, while once sharp and competent, is np longer is sharp and competent. Saying that he is better than the other senile guy is a poor argument.  Biden needs to step aside or be pushed out of the way. Why is everyone walking on eggshells and being defensive about this?  [/quote]

I could’ve written this. ^

Biden clearly doesn’t have the awareness to step aside, which is very unfortunate.

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The vast majority of Americans say Biden is too old to be president. It's nothing personal. Most people would like to be old one day. We can all see that Biden today is not nearly as cognitively sharp as when he was VP during the Obama years. That's life. Most 80-something people are not fit to do mentally or physically taxing jobs. There is a near universal consensus that people in their 80s shouldn't be president. Why democrats in the White House and Congress refuse to face up to basic common sense is mystifying. They seem to think that because Trump is Trump, reelection is guaranteed. But every poll is screaming otherwise. Biden is going to lose. People are not voting for Weekend at Bernies. The arrogance and presumption of democrats today is breathtaking.[/quote]

Name a time in modern US political history where a sitting president didn't run for re-election because of external forces (ie not Lyndon Johnson who chose not to run himself and wasn't 'forced out")[/quote]

There has never been an 82 year old president in demonstrable cognitive decline running for reelection. It's uncharted territory.

Absolutely no one in this country wants to see a redux of Biden vs Trump. Two elderly men that have lost their marbles. Normally, Trump would lose to a potted plant. But democrats are presenting a gift by nominating a very elderly man who stumbles with every little thing. It's a big problem. Biden is going to lose. I don't want to see Trump as president again. But democrats are gifting it to him. And if you don't see that, you need to get off Twitter/X and go to Pennsylvania and Michigan and Nevada and talk to actual human beings.[/quote]
I don't think Biden and Trump have completely lost their marbles but agree with what you are saying otherwise. This is indeed an unprecedented incumbent circumstance due to the sitting president's age, his historically low approval rating, and the likelihood of a replacement candidate being able to more easily beat the awful opponent. I won't lose respect for Biden if he chooses to stay in the race and ultimately loses but I'd be more than okay with it if he chose to back out of the 2024 race.[/quote]

And yet, the Dems are significantly outperforming in the 2023 elections tonight.[/quote]

It doesn't really matter who the Democrats run, really. Abortion used to be a driver for Republican votes. The SC took away that Republican GOTV and ceded it to the Democrats. Wait until they start running this ad over and over. "I was able to do something that nobody thought was possible, end Roe v. Wade,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “For 52 years, people talked, spent vast amounts of money, but couldn’t get the job done. I got the job done!" This doesn't even get into the turnoff that's the House's dysfunction, MAGA craziness, or Trump's criminality. I mean Israel/Gaza is fresh on everybody's minds, and it wasn't even a blip with moderates at the polls. But I guess Republican voters can still dance around with their Presidential polls a year out. I mean polling is pretty awesome these days, right?[/quote]
I’m feeling hopeful that Dems can win US Senate if  candidates promise to enshrine abortion into law. With Manchin and Sinema gone, we only need 50 Democratic Senators to make this happen. Put the GOP in defense with abortion.[/quote]

No the dems will keep the 60 votes to do anything in the senate. So dems will have to win at least 65 seats to see any changes. This rule cements republican veto on everything including abortion.[/quote]

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