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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think you should go with the hosts preference. That is the polite thing to do. At the same time, I would not object to a friend wanting to say grace in my home.  If everyone is reasonable, then things are fine. But as the another post in this forum shows, many people here feel like it's their RIGHT to do whatever/whenever in the name of freedom.

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There's a big difference between not being religious and being so offended by other people's religion that you feel compelled to prevent them from practicing it in your presence.

Why would you not want your friends to say a 15-30 prayer of gratitude and thanks in your home (where you invited them to be) and respect their beliefs?

People DO have the freedom to practice their religion (or to not practice a religion) and it’s a great privilege to have the freedom to do so.

Why are we against freedom?

Why is freedom a bad thing?

People are free to speak and practice whatever religion they choose- or choose to not practice a religion.

I don’t think I have ever encountered people who think this is a negative thing before, ever.

“The constitutional freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and sacred of all human rights." --Thomas Jefferson: Virginia Board of Visitors Minutes, 1819.

"Among the most inestimable of our blessings, also, is that... of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable to His will; a liberty deemed in other countries incompatible with good government and yet proved by our experience to be its best support." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to John Thomas et al., 1807.

"In our early struggles for liberty, religious freedom could not fail to become a primary object." --Thomas Jefferson to Baltimore Baptists, 1808.

"Religion, as well as reason, confirms the soundness of those principles on which our government has been founded and its rights asserted." --Thomas Jefferson to P. H. Wendover, 1815.

"One of the amendments to the Constitution... expressly declares that 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press,' thereby guarding in the same sentence and under the same words, the freedom of religion, of speech, and of the press; insomuch that whatever violates either throws down the sanctuary which covers the others." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.[/quote]

I mean sure, but the rest of us don't have to sit around quietly with our heads bowed. If someone at my table wants to say a prayer silently before they eat with their head bowed and hands folded, go for it. I don't feel the need to stop my conversation with the person next to me for that and bow my head along with them. That's my freedom not to and I'm sure you agree with me.[/quote]

I mean personally I am not going to eat until everyone at the table is ready to eat. If we go in a group to a restaurant, order in a group, and another diner’s food is late, I don’t eat until they have the meal they ordered. I think it’s rude to eat in front of a friend who is waiting for their food and hungry also. That’s just my level of manners and empathy, and I know it’s not something everyone else feels necessary.

Of course you have every right to not pray and can eat whenever you wish. You have no responsibility or duty to pray with anyone.

That’s why it’s ridiculous to debate whether or not we can “allow” someone to pray at our homes or at a restaurant.

I am glad to live in a country where everyone can live their life as they wish. It’s truly a privilege to have these freedoms.

op should realize that they don’t control what their guests do, and to try to control them is exceptionally rude, especially as the purpose of inviting someone to your home is to have a mutually pleasant experience and share a meal. 
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Not talking about eating before everyone else. If I'm in a conversation with someone at the table and someone else starts to pray out loud I'm not going to stop my conversation and pretend to join in.  Love my freedoms. You go ahead and do you. I'll do me.

Anyone can pray at any time. Just like anyone can curse at any time. Or sing a song. Or recite a poem. All silently, no one else needs to be drawn into it.[/quote]

I wonder how many of these hypotheticals on any side have actually been experienced by the people posting them.

Anyway, [b]would you be respectful of somebody else's prayers/vegan food/no-pork preferences? Or would you curse during the silent prayer and dribble BBQ sauce over their plate as you help yourself to the pork?[/b][/quote]

Stop being argumentative, please.   I think we've established that a silent prayer would be just fine, which answers OP's question,

It's kind of too bad this was moved to the Religion forum.

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